ESI vs. Nexstar

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sfav8r

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I am wondering if some of you with experience in either group can offer some highlights of the differences between Nexstar and ESI. From what I can tell, both groups are very good and I believe either one would benefit us. My concern is finding which one is the best fit for our company.

Following are my opinions/observations so far based on talking with both organizations. I could be way off.

1) Nexstar came across as a bit more "polished" to me. While both were very professional, Nexstar just seemed a little more "high end."

2) Nexstar seemed a little more geared towards bigger companies than ESI. I keep trying to quantify why I have that opinion, and to be honest I can't. It's just the feeling I got.

3) ESI seemed to have a more detailed step-by-step approach. For example if you are just starting out with one truck, they provide a financial model of exactly what you can achieve with one truck. They provide an actual diagram of a typical service truck including which model of racks to order and exactly what goes in each bin. I realize that most people will not use that exact setup, but it's nice to have somewhere to start.

4) ESI uses a single page price sheet. This really surprised me because to be honest, I can't imagine how that would work and they won't share details until you join. I love the idea, trust me, I jsut can't imagine it. Nexstar uses a flat rate price book which most of us are familiar with.

These are just a few things I picke up. I'd really like to hear from people who have first hand experience with either or both groups. The first year memberships are about $20,000 and subsequent years are $10,000-$15,000 so picking the one that will benefit us the most is critical.

Any thoughts? Are my observations close? Any other differences between the two?

Having read many of the posts about either group I noticed a lot of people don't care for flat rate pricing or other aspects of these groups. For this particular post, I'm trying to avoid political opinions about the pros and cons of the way they price etc. I'd just like to contrast the two groups so that I, and others considering joining, can be armed with the best information.

Thanks!
 

mdshunk

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Having looked them both over, and not really talking to any contractors who partake, if you made me choose (maybe I already chose?), I'd pick ESI. I'm pretty sure that emahler and satcom have a more educated opinion, but it's unlikely they'll share it in the open forum. The nice thing about these systems is that you're not getting locked in for 10 years with someone like the Dwyer Group, giving away as much or more royalties than you make in your check.
 
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sfav8r

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I'm pretty sure that emahler and satcom have a more educated opinion, but it's unlikely they'll share it in the open forum.

Why is that? Is there some reason you're (we're) not supposed to talk about it publicly? I can see not bashing a group, but I'm not looking for that. Just peoples experience and opinions so myself and others can make informed decisions. Not sure why anyone would have a problem with that...Then again I was wrong once before. Of course that was a long time ago.
 

Sparky555

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Why is that? Is there some reason you're (we're) not supposed to talk about it publicly? I can see not bashing a group, but I'm not looking for that. Just peoples experience and opinions so myself and others can make informed decisions. Not sure why anyone would have a problem with that...Then again I was wrong once before. Of course that was a long time ago.

If you paid $20k+ for some really sweet business information, would you give it away on an open forum?
 

sfav8r

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If you paid $20k+ for some really sweet business information, would you give it away on an open forum?

"Give it away?" I'm not asking for any trade secrets here, just trying to find out the difference between the two groups. I find it interesting that there is this kind of response to this question. I don't recall any other topic where this has happened. Even if you ask about Mr Sparky or Mr. Electric, you'll get input from people who know (or think they know) the pros and cons.
 

satcom

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Yeah, I did see that article, it was interesting. I'm hoping to find some comparisons between the two groups so I can see which one is the best fit for our company. It's a pretty substantial expense and I want to make sure I'm spending wisely.

In my area, it seems the Nexstar guys, are growing faster then all the other contractors, ESI I really don't know how they are doing, they don't seem to have any national base, or ad's like the plumbing nationals do, so I guess you get less bang for the buck from them, but you will have to ask someone, that is in the ESI group to get the full story.
 

sfav8r

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In my area, it seems the Nexstar guys, are growing faster then all the other contractors, ESI I really don't know how they are doing, they don't seem to have any national base, or ad's like the plumbing nationals do, so I guess you get less bang for the buck from them, but you will have to ask someone, that is in the ESI group to get the full story.

I thought they were both national. I believe Nexstar may be International. I'm more concerned about differences between the two, like how they approach certain things. One example is pricing. From what I have seen, Nexstar promotes a flat rate price book and ESI uses what I can only describe as a price sheet. It seems impossible to boil down an entire flat rate book to a 2 sided sheet of paper, but I'm opn to the possiblity...I'd just like to hear from those who have done one or the other (Nexstar or ESI) and see what they think and what the differences are.

I have been to both presentations. I think I'll try calling shops that have joined and talk to them directly.
 
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