Estimating Question...

[Alwayslearningelec]

If there are several large pieces of switchgear, PDU's, UPS's etc. going to the upper floors(10th and higher) of a new construction building is the only way for this stuff to get set in it's location rigging? Could sections of this gear every get in a hoist that would be on the job? I know sometimes you pay the GC for use of the crane onsite per pick or have your own rigging but I was not sure if gear every went up in a hoist even if it could fit and the weight capacity was ok.

Thanks.

 

[roger]

Unless you are willing to gamble, put money in your estimate to provide your own means of the getting the gear in place, your competitors will be playing the same game. You could also send in pre bid clarification questions which this could be one.

Roger

 

[Alwayslearningelec]

Unless you are willing to gamble, put money in your estimate to provide your own means of the getting the gear in place, your competitors will be playing the same game. You could also send in pre bid clarification questions which this could be one.

Roger

Thanks Roger. Yes, I agree but I think we have information on the hoist(weight capacity etc) in the CD's but I was curious gear was ever brought up in them. Again, I think your approach is correct.

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[macmikeman]

You are probably supposed to provide temp power for that job... If they aren't going to hoist for you, provide unreliable temp power for the job if you know what I mean. I bet the contract has nothing to say about that problem...

 

[Alwayslearningelec]

You are probably supposed to provide temp power for that job... If they aren't going to hoist for you, provide unreliable temp power for the job if you know what I mean. I bet the contract has nothing to say about that problem...

I understand where you going with that. It is n ot that they won't hoist it is I am not sure what gear(large) can be placed in a hoist. Or is it common never to use a hoist to bring gear to upper floors.

Thanks.

 

[roger]

I understand where you going with that. It is n ot that they won't hoist it is I am not sure what gear(large) can be placed in a hoist. Or is it common never to use a hoist to bring gear to upper floors.

Thanks.

It is common to use the jobsite hoist but as you question, there are limits to what can be lifted in the hoist. That is the reason to either get clarrification of what the hoist can handle or include a crane price in your bid.

Another issue to take into consideration on jobs with hoists is the amount of time your crews will be standing around waiting for the hoist to carry their material, (and the lazy ones will find a reason to ride it verses walking up stairs) this will equate to a lot of non-productive hours on a daily basis.

Roger

 

[Alwayslearningelec]

It is common to use the jobsite hoist but as you question, there are limits to what can be lifted in the hoist. That is the reason to either get clarrification of what the hoist can handle or include a crane price in your bid.

Another issue to take into consideration on jobs with hoists is the amount of time your crews will be standing around waiting for the hoist to carry their material, (and the lazy ones will find a reason to ride it verses walking up stairs) this will equate to a lot of non-productive hours on a daily basis.

Roger

Yup, we always account for NPL( 5-10% depending). Thanks Roger.