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I'm bidding a medium size commercial Mixed use building in S.california.This one is 3 story,50,000 SQ/F.with subterranian parking.1st floor is Retail level
2nd floor is office level and 3rd floor is 8x1600 SQ/F condo level.Is there any one done this size project.I need an estimated cost per SQ/f.
I appreciate your help.
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Vick
 
By the square ft has way to many variables. Going to have to bring a lot more than that, for anybody to really even take a look. Design/build, engineered prints?
 
Vic, you need to be really careful there. That is a fairly large size building. How many employees to you have. What is their experience level? Honestly if you don't know how to start estimating a project of that size then you might want to consider passing on it.

Try a smaller building say in the 6000 to 9000 sq ft range. Learn to unit cost all your items. I would NEVER sq ft estimate a 3 level building of that size. Maybe a songle story of about a 5th of that size if I knew for sure it was a general office building and had the cost of a previous one in my database.

If you really think you can do it but do not know how to bid it, hire an estimator. There are several out there who can nail down the costs to a tee. Good luck Vic !!
 
I agree with David, You have one option that may work for you. Hire a firm that will put the bid together for you. There are some really good firms out there that will do your complete package. Then you will have confidence in your bid. In the future investigate buying a great estimating program. I suggest ConEst IntelliBid. They are located in Manchester, N.H. David and I both use this program.
 
I agree with the others. A per outlet price with the lighting, panels and service seperate is a good way to go. I don't know what the going price is right now, but it was around $50 an outlet here for awhile and let your wholesale house price out the fixtures and swithchgear.
 
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I agree with the others. A per outlet price with the lighting, panels and service seperate is a good way to go. I don't know what the going price is right now, but it was around $50 an outlet here for awhile and let your wholesale house price out the fixtures and swithchgear.
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1 hr. per device
25' 12-2 mc per device (duplex, S1, or typical light)
20 hr. per 1000' 12-2 mc

be careful with the price of copper, might want to figure out how much it costs to burn a 1000' with the above formula and put the cost of it in to check the per outlet price. I used to unit price like that before the price went crazy, and just haven't checked it since.
 
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Vic, There is no way I would use a sqft cost for a building of this size and varied occupancy. Not all areas will relate to a single sqft cost. There are so many variables associated with multi-story construction. Is someone pushing you for a quick price? Typically if you are doing buildings of this size you have one or more estimators on board and are using some type of computer estimating program and have been making adjustments to your program to fit your business. My advice would be, if you are new to this type of work, get some help in the estimating department and make sure your crew can handle the work load and meet the generals schedule. There are many estimating programs on the market but all of them need to be adjusted to your company.

Good Luck!
Grant
 
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I apreciate you all for your time.I agree with you guys who don't follow the rule of Sq/F cost,Becaause for all the factors involved.I have done good size office buildings around 25,000 sq/f,but not with this layout.Our Estimated material cost
is $330,000.00 and Labor cost is $280,000.00.What you guys think if we add
270,000.00 for profit and Overhead.
Thank you all
Vick
 
vicdelta said:
I apreciate you all for your time.I agree with you guys who don't follow the rule of Sq/F cost,Becaause for all the factors involved.I have done good size office buildings around 25,000 sq/f,but not with this layout.Our Estimated material cost
is $330,000.00 and Labor cost is $280,000.00.What you guys think if we add
270,000.00 for profit and Overhead.
Thank you all
Vick
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I'd say I want to work for that general if he actually does pay at 30 days.
 
Would like to retract my first statement. Guess I'm getting old (my how time flys) Was talking to a local contractor yesterday and he told me that he figures that it's costing him about $100 an outlet if not more.

Guess bradley is closer to right.
 
I think $260,000 for OH&P is reasonable.

The way the economy seems to be headed though, I think $150,000 OH&P will take the job (actually may go as low as $75,000 depending on where it is).
 
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