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Who knows about this? does it exceed UL or equivalent? What if the intertek mark is not there does it make a difference.
looking at various lights online and notice some have this mark but no UL listing. they do have the energy compliance label.
I would appreciate any info on UL and energy listing or any other info I should look for with lighting. I know the NEC decent but not too much on building and energy codes.
thanks
Keith
 
ETL stood for Electrical Testing Labs, a competitor to UL. They had a hard time making it and almost went under, but were bought by Intertek. So intertek is the company, but they retained the ETL logo because it was well known. Not as well known as UL, but more well known than anyone else.

ETL, and now Intertek, never created their own testing standards, they used ULs standards. But they did their own testing and applied their own marks, usually for less money than UL charged. Some people said they were easier to deal with than UL, others said they were easier because they were less stringent. I personally experienced that when they were ETL but that likely changed when Intertek took over because that reputation was one of the things that was hurting ETL. Whether or not the word Intertek appears on the logo is likely just an issue of the age of what you are looking at. Could also be a counterfeit though, that’s been happening a lot on all fronts, UL included.

As it stands now, both UL and Intertek/ETL are what are called an “NRTL”, Nationally Recognized Testing Lab. When a code calls for using a “listed” product, they are meaning listed by an NRTL. A list of accepted NRTLs is kept by OSHA and you can look at it here. You will see that UL is on there, as are CSA and Intertek/ETL, as well as several other lesser known firms. All of them are acceptable in most jurisdictions.
 
The NEC does not specify that a product be listed by a NRTL like OSHA does. I think it should but it doesn't. Almost all of the product standards that things are listed to are UL standards. As long as it is listed to the correct standard for the application, it should be good to go. There have been issues in the past with listed products not actually being listed to the standard that really applies.
 
The NEC does not specify that a product be listed by a NRTL like OSHA does...

The NEC requirement was clarified in 2017 110.3(C)

In prior code cycles, the reference was inferred: 110.3(B) only applied to "Listed or labeled equipment..", etc..
 
The NEC requirement was clarified in 2017 110.3(C)

In prior code cycles, the reference was inferred: 110.3(B) only applied to "Listed or labeled equipment..", etc..
Still stops short of actually requiring the listing be by one of the NRTLs. The Informational Note is not code and is not enforceable.
 
Still stops short of actually requiring the listing be by one of the NRTLs. The Informational Note is not code and is not enforceable.

One way to look at this, NFPA-70 is just another adopted authority having jurisdiction. Therefore it appears 110.3(C) demands equipment is tested by a "recognized qualified ETL". This is Not the Informational Note. NFPA then uses the "Informational Note" to describe OSHA's role, or kicks the can to them.


Granted OSHA has become toothless with no budget, and enforcement is a day late & dollar short to every posthumous party.
Granted self-regulation celebrates its defiance of OSHA, until tragedy and litigators cite OSHA violations to exact lawful punitive & monetary damages.

If OSHA and its regulatory cannon are historically recognized as authority in court, it does not diminish such authority to appear in Informational Notes of adopted NFPA fire codes.

If OSHA is the authority having jurisdiction to recognize qualified "electrical testing laboratories" (ETL), public policy grants OSHA authority to publish that list, regardless of privately-run NFPA publishers too cheep to include the ETL list updates within their pages.

OSHA describes its NRTL program here:
https://www.osha.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/

One place OSHA chooses to publishes that list:
https://www.osha.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/nrtllist.html
 
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The code does not specify who has to recognize the testing lab as being qualified. There is nothing in the code that can, other than the opinion of the AHJ, require the testing lab be one that is on OSHA's list of recognized testing labs.
 
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