ETL rating NOT UL 2 conuctor no groound bonding???

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Good morning I have a fixture mad in the UK with a ETLlisting NOT ul.
This fixture comes with a factory installed 2 conductorwhip.
NO grounding conductor supplied.
This fixture is wet location rated IP67
To meet code does this fixture need to be bonded?
It will be installed in Dallas Texas recessed on the outsideof a building.
Thanks for your help.
 

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SceneryDriver

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Good morning I have a fixture mad in the UK with a ETLlisting NOT ul.
This fixture comes with a factory installed 2 conductorwhip.
NO grounding conductor supplied.
This fixture is wet location rated IP67
To meet code does this fixture need to be bonded?
It will be installed in Dallas Texas recessed on the outsideof a building.
Thanks for your help.

ETL is another NRTL (Nationally Recognized Testing Lab), just like UL is. There's no reason, from a technical point of view, that this fixture can't be used within the parameters listed in its instruction sheet. From the brief description you've given, it sounds fine. Many European fixtures are double-insulated, and thus don't require a green wire.

That said, some AHJs don't understand that ETL tests to the same standards as UL, and if they don't see the UL sticker, the AHJ may take issue. If you're concerned about the AHJ passing it (and they should) contact them first.

ETL is a smaller testing lab, and from what I've heard, less expensive and friendlier to deal with. UL tends to be a bully, especially to manufacturers, and demands $$$.



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don_resqcapt19

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Does the fixture have any exposed metal parts?

The code does not specify what listing agency can list a product, but you have to be sure what standard ETL listed the fixture to. You can find products that have been listed to a standard that does not really apply to the product application.
 
Exposed metal parts

Exposed metal parts

ETL is another NRTL (Nationally Recognized Testing Lab), just like UL is. There's no reason, from a technical point of view, that this fixture can't be used within the parameters listed in its instruction sheet. From the brief description you've given, it sounds fine. Many European fixtures are double-insulated, and thus don't require a green wire.

That said, some AHJs don't understand that ETL tests to the same standards as UL, and if they don't see the UL sticker, the AHJ may take issue. If you're concerned about the AHJ passing it (and they should) contact them first.

ETL is a smaller testing lab, and from what I've heard, less expensive and friendlier to deal with. UL tends to be a bully, especially to manufacturers, and demands $$$.



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Yes the fixture does have exposed metal parts the housing is extruded aluminum
with aluminum end caps
 
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