Extended Stay vs. Dwelling Unit

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We are converting an old motel to an extended stay. Our contract is to install 2 circuits per room. Now the owner wants a range circuit in each room. Do we have to redo the entire electrical system and wire each room like a dwelling unit?
Is there some code that exempts extended stays from dwelling unit status?
 
We are converting an old motel to an extended stay. Our contract is to install 2 circuits per room. Now the owner wants a range circuit in each room. Do we have to redo the entire electrical system and wire each room like a dwelling unit?
Is there some code that exempts extended stays from dwelling unit status?

Does it meet the definition in Article 100 for a dwelling unit?
Dwelling Unit. A single unit, providing complete and independent living facilities for one or more persons, including permanent provisions for living,sleeping,cooking, and sanitation.
This applies even where multiple units are in same structure.
Dwelling, Multifamily. A building that contains three or more dwelling units
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As to exemptions better check requirements of 240.24(B)(2) from this reading by adding "perminant provisions for cooking" as you are suggesting, it would make the biggest change that would be required from changing a guest room or suite to a dwelling unit (per definition above), and probably the most expensive. There may be others.
(Italics are direct wording from NEC 2017)
 
Do all circuits in each dwelling unit have to be feed from the same feeder.
Can we use the existing bathroom and lighting circuits from the existing panels then add the new range and refrigerator circuit from a need feeder?
 
The suggested changes that make each now a dwelling unit would include any requirements of a individual dwelling unit. Think about it as if you are making a Multifamily dwelling, can you or would you want the circuit breakers for the lights in one unit controlled by another unit, would that be compliant? (Take out consideration that this was at one point a motel.)
The only time I was in an extended stay was an old Marriotte that was a hotel and changed to an extended stay as you are suggesting, each room suite had it's own small panel. If I remember it had HVAC, stove, lights and receptacles.
Your quandary sounds like you now have a large change order from what was originally proposed, and is the owner prepared for it.
One loophole might be to add a circuit for a hotplate as opposed to actually perminant cooking appliance sidestepping Dwelling unit, but a lot of insurance companies frown on hot plates as they have been a significant fire hazard and cause of hotel fires, thus why you almost never find one in a hotel, and usually are listed as prohibited from being guest supplied.
 
Don't know how many units you are dealing with but keep in mind the change in service size with that additional load.
It's now a whole new ball game,
 
I'm wondering how you have an extended stay that didn't already have cooking provisions.

I'm also wondering how the owner dictated how many circuits are in the place

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Let me ask this question a different way.

If this is a multifamily dwelling, do you see any issue if the HVAC (PTAC units) are powered by a separate panel?
 
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