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Extending cat 5 / RJ45 Keystone jack

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DSamson

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I'm working in a high rise condo. At location "A", I've got 1) Cat 5 cable punched down (all 8 conductors) to one RJ 45 keystone jack, 2) another Cat 5 cable punched down to 2 RJ 45 keystone jacks (4 conductors to each jack, yes, I know this isn't kosher), and 3) a quad-shield RG6 to and male / male coax keystone.

As far as I can tell, they're all home runs.

At location "B", about 40 inches to the right, the customer wants to duplicate the setup from location "A" and have eveything functional at both locations.

For the Cat 5, I tried to punch down a second cable in the existing keystone jack at location A, but I get no continuity. The pins don't pierce the insulation on the second wire.

Can anyone think of a way to extend the Cat 5 cables from location A to location B, and still have functionality at location A? I can't run a new home run cable to location B.

For the RG 6 I plan to just put in a splitter in the wall (it will still be accessible).

Thanks as always for your help.
 

DSamson

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Extending CAT 5

Extending CAT 5

Yes, one Cat 5 appears to be for data and the other for voice. Are UR splices inadequate for data? Is the UR crimping tool essential, or will a linesman's do the trick?

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barbeer

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Your phone should not suffer much but the LAN/network side may lag a little, the wires are twisted for a reason.
 
DSamson said:
At location "B", about 40 inches to the right, the customer wants to duplicate the setup from location "A" and have eveything functional at both locations.

Depends on how they determine "functional". Do they want to use both sets of jacks at once? That becomes tricky.

DSamson said:
For the Cat 5, I tried to punch down a second cable in the existing keystone jack at location A, but I get no continuity. The pins don't pierce the insulation on the second wire.

Can anyone think of a way to extend the Cat 5 cables from location A to location B, and still have functionality at location A? I can't run a new home run cable to location B.

No. Can't be done and still pass CAT5 test. Those connectors are designed for a single lead on each terminal. Either way, if the client is going to use this for a computer network, you need an active concentrator (switch/hub); you can't just tap the leads for another connection. The best bet is to add another seperate CAT5 from A to B, and install a networ switch at A, connecting both CAT5 runs and whatever's sitting at A.

For the phone part (the 4-wire jacks), you can tap then with Scotchlocks and run to another jack. This will work for POTS lines but not digital PBX phones.

DSamson said:
For the RG 6 I plan to just put in a splitter in the wall (it will still be accessible).

I assume this is only for cable TV. Should work for that.

All this seems like quite a lot of work for less than four feet, unless A and B are on different sides of a wall.
 

danickstr

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for internet access, you have to have terminations that are addressable by the system individually. to use both points, the lines each have to go back to an intelligent hub separately or they will not work right. It is called star network.

Daisy-chaining internet connections will only confuse a network, since only one point can be working at a time,and if the network sees two different items, even one at a time, it could cause address issues.
 
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