Feeding load across street

Tainted

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New York
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Engineer (PE)
There is a building that owns a park across the public street. They want to add lights to the park.

Is this legal to do in NYC?

Looks like we need to grab a branch circuit from the building and it will need to pass through the street underground somehow trenched.
 
Not in any town I know of. Public streets are out of bounds for private wiring.
We had a Home Depot in Charleston SC that had either a pylon sign or light pole on the other side of a side street that had damaged wiring, and one of my guys had to cut the street to re-feed it. The city allowed it, but got all out of joint because it wasn’t repaired to their specs. So it may be just a permission thing, but NYC, it would probably involve some under the table cash, if allowed at all.
 
I've had lots lit totally by the POCO. No permits, no inspections, no installation charges. Last time I did it was 10 years ago and it was $20 a month for each light. They even handled the maintenance. They even installed the poles.

Nothing to do on my end but sign the contract and pay the monthly bill
 
I've had lots lit totally by the POCO. No permits, no inspections, no installation charges. Last time I did it was 10 years ago and it was $20 a month for each light. They even handled the maintenance. They even installed the poles.

Nothing to do on my end but sign the contract and pay the monthly bill
Our office parking lot lights were leased through Georgia Power, we would have to keep on them to maintain them, because they would wait until a good chunk of them were out before they would show up and fix them. We added a flag pole near one of them, and they charged $3000 to add a led flood to shine on the pole, and $35 a month for power.
 
Our office parking lot lights were leased through Georgia Power, we would have to keep on them to maintain them, because they would wait until a good chunk of them were out before they would show up and fix them. We added a flag pole near one of them, and they charged $3000 to add a led flood to shine on the pole, and $35 a month for power.
I only got rid of mine because when they went to LED, the lights sucked. They gave me no option to change the lights even if I paid more. But they disconnected them and took the lights, but I still have the poles. I was going to install floods on them and put receptacles down on the bottom. It's about 350 feet of trenching and a small fortune in wire so I haven't got around to it yet. And with my Achilles tendon torn I need a bucket of some kind because ladders are out of the question
 
Have the building owners adjacent to the park been consulted? Perhaps they might be willing to make some arrangement for the lights to be connected to their electrical system. Such a proposal could be framed as improving security in the area, and of course they would be financially compensated for it.
 
Just getting a new service to the property might be the easiest way. Lots quicker too. And probably less expensive. Con Ed can do a lot of things you can't because they are NESC and not NEC
 
I’ve seen those type at a park and ride, they eventually took them out and put in wired ones. Either they weren’t bright enough, or too expensive to repair.
Weather or not they work depends upon region, and specifics to the exact location, most of NYC is a poor location. I think even with a good location in NYC you'd only average like 2.5 solar hours per day. So a 1 kw panel would produce 2.5 KWh in a day. And winter is much worse
 
Weather or not they work depends upon region, and specifics to the exact location, most of NYC is a poor location. I think even with a good location in NYC you'd only average like 2.5 solar hours per day. So a 1 kw panel would produce 2.5 KWh in a day. And winter is much worse
This was just north of Atlanta. Relatively open area. Would be better suited for south Georgia or Florida. They have a lot of solar farms between Atlanta and Macon. Don’t know if without the subsidies, if they are turning a profit. One got substantial hail damage even before it got on line.
 
This was just north of Atlanta. Relatively open area. Would be better suited for south Georgia or Florida. They have a lot of solar farms between Atlanta and Macon. Don’t know if without the subsidies, if they are turning a profit. One got substantial hail damage even before it got on line.
And you have to clean them alot in a place like NYC. Lots of dust, and they can get a lot of snow. Believe me cleaning solar panels on top of a pole as "high priority" is going to be a hard sell to the maintenance department and the only guys that want to do it is when they are on overtime hours and milking the clock.

I've got no doubt that they are a good idea for some locations, but not in NYC and not that close to the ground
 
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