Figuring And Applying Overhead……

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This is a little thing I put together for a Contractor's FB group I’m on.

FIGURING AND APPLYING OVERHEAD:

First thing to understand is, figuring overhead is an ongoing task, and it deals with some projections. As the year progresses, projected figures will become actual figures, and you will adjust your overhead figure to match.

So, first thing, sit down and total up everything you spend to be in business: license fees, insurance, vehicle payment, registration, insurance, and maintenance, cell phone, tool purchases, tool repairs, office rent, utilities, shop rent…….It’s a long list.

What is NOT included: Labor, labor burden, profit, your labor, materials…..

One tricky item is fuel. You should come with a projected amount for basic travel, based on miles from your shop, say 50 miles per day. That would go into overhead.

Any amount over that should be charged as a direct job cost.

So now, you have all these numbers. Some are paid monthly, some yearly, some every two years, like a state license. What to do?

You must combine this all into a YEARLY figure. Divide your 2 year license by 2, multiply your monthly cell phone bill by 12, and so on.

Now you have a yearly amount that it will cost you to be in isiness, if you didn’t bid a single job.

Now, a tricky part. When you worked for someone else, you worked 253 days a year. That’s working every day, Saturdayand Sunday off, and the 8 standard holidays off.

If you got two weeks vacation, that’ll knock off another 10 working days.

So, do you divide your yearly overhead by 253 working days? Only if you want to go broke. Why?

Because you will not have 253 billable days in the year. Not to start out. There will be a day here and there in between jobs, days that you need to work in the office, days you got 1/2 a day in.

I use 200 working days a year. Again, that’s a projection, so check and adjust as necessary.

So, if your yearly overhead comes out to $70,000, divide that by 200, and you get $350/day. That is just to recover overhead. That is NOT your wages, nor is it profit.

Now, for the other way to figure it. It’s more complicated, and I think more prone to inaccuracies, unless your project are all nearly the same in scope and size. That is to take that yearly number, and divide it by projected yearly gross sales, and come up with a multiplier, that you will apply to the job cost. Charging overhead based on dollar amount vs days worked. Same basic result, I just prefer one over the other.

Now you have an overhead figure. If you bid a job that will take you an estimated 10 days, then you need to put $3,500 into the bid, JUST TO COVER OVERHEAD.

And you can see, that if you mis-estimated, and it actually took uou 11 days to do the job, you will LOSE $350, because you STILL acccrued those overhead expenses, but you did not recover any of it.

I’ll do a separate post about figuring total bids, using your overhead figures, and I’ll dig into markup a little bit as well.
 
This is a little thing I put together for a Contractor's FB group I’m on.

FIGURING AND APPLYING OVERHEAD:

First thing to understand is, figuring overhead is an ongoing task, and it deals with some projections. As the year progresses, projected figures will become actual figures, and you will adjust your overhead figure to match.

So, first thing, sit down and total up everything you spend to be in business: license fees, insurance, vehicle payment, registration, insurance, and maintenance, cell phone, tool purchases, tool repairs, office rent, utilities, shop rent…….It’s a long list.

What is NOT included: Labor, labor burden, profit, your labor, materials…..

One tricky item is fuel. You should come with a projected amount for basic travel, based on miles from your shop, say 50 miles per day. That would go into overhead.

Any amount over that should be charged as a direct job cost.

So now, you have all these numbers. Some are paid monthly, some yearly, some every two years, like a state license. What to do?

You must combine this all into a YEARLY figure. Divide your 2 year license by 2, multiply your monthly cell phone bill by 12, and so on.

Now you have a yearly amount that it will cost you to be in isiness, if you didn’t bid a single job.

Now, a tricky part. When you worked for someone else, you worked 253 days a year. That’s working every day, Saturdayand Sunday off, and the 8 standard holidays off.

If you got two weeks vacation, that’ll knock off another 10 working days.

So, do you divide your yearly overhead by 253 working days? Only if you want to go broke. Why?

Because you will not have 253 billable days in the year. Not to start out. There will be a day here and there in between jobs, days that you need to work in the office, days you got 1/2 a day in.

I use 200 working days a year. Again, that’s a projection, so check and adjust as necessary.

So, if your yearly overhead comes out to $70,000, divide that by 200, and you get $350/day. That is just to recover overhead. That is NOT your wages, nor is it profit.

Now, for the other way to figure it. It’s more complicated, and I think more prone to inaccuracies, unless your project are all nearly the same in scope and size. That is to take that yearly number, and divide it by projected yearly gross sales, and come up with a multiplier, that you will apply to the job cost. Charging overhead based on dollar amount vs days worked. Same basic result, I just prefer one over the other.

Now you have an overhead figure. If you bid a job that will take you an estimated 10 days, then you need to put $3,500 into the bid, JUST TO COVER OVERHEAD.

And you can see, that if you mis-estimated, and it actually took uou 11 days to do the job, you will LOSE $350, because you STILL acccrued those overhead expenses, but you did not recover any of it.

I’ll do a separate post about figuring total bids, using your overhead figures, and I’ll dig into markup a little bit as well.
So, if your yearly overhead comes out to $70,000, divide that by 200, and you get $350/day.
then you need to put $3,500 into the bid, JUST TO COVER OVERHEAD.
Stumbled across this post, thank you for posting this. I recently started my own electrical company 4 months ago. Been in the trade 16 years but I'm very much learning the ropes on this side of the ring.

I'm with you on calculating the overhead by year, I even went a few steps further and on my spread sheet broke it down by month and week. I'm pretty far from full 40 hour weeks right now so its hard for me to wrap my head around calculating all this out.

I'm not bidding large projects yet, most jobs I have are smaller around the 1.5-4k range. I try and stay away from full line item pricing. I typically do:

-Travel charge
-Fuel Surcharge
-Labor
-Material

With a separate scope of work explaining what I'm doing. Right now I determined my labor rate by looking at my weekly projected "overhead" (which does include a reasonable figure for profit and a wage I could function on, so I know its not a strictly overhead number) and divide that by 20hrs. Since I'm not drowning in work I kept that number low. I figure as long as my labor rate is 125-150%% over what that comes to, I can cover everything and any material markup is strictly profit. I'm currently solo with no employees.

But where would you add these extra figures to? Labor? separate line? My apologies I don't want to turn this into a mentoring thread. There's just a lot I'm figuring out.
 
Stumbled across this post, thank you for posting this. I recently started my own electrical company 4 months ago. Been in the trade 16 years but I'm very much learning the ropes on this side of the ring.

I'm with you on calculating the overhead by year, I even went a few steps further and on my spread sheet broke it down by month and week. I'm pretty far from full 40 hour weeks right now so its hard for me to wrap my head around calculating all this out.

I'm not bidding large projects yet, most jobs I have are smaller around the 1.5-4k range. I try and stay away from full line item pricing. I typically do:

-Travel charge
-Fuel Surcharge
-Labor
-Material

With a separate scope of work explaining what I'm doing. Right now I determined my labor rate by looking at my weekly projected "overhead" (which does include a reasonable figure for profit and a wage I could function on, so I know its not a strictly overhead number) and divide that by 20hrs. Since I'm not drowning in work I kept that number low. I figure as long as my labor rate is 125-150%% over what that comes to, I can cover everything and any material markup is strictly profit. I'm currently solo with no employees.

But where would you add these extra figures to? Labor? separate line? My apologies I don't want to turn this into a mentoring thread. There's just a lot I'm figuring out.
If I understand it right, when calculating the total overhead for a year, you divide the overhead by an overhead driver. The overhead driver depends on how you estimate or quote your jobs. OP considers working days per year as the overhead driver and divides the total overhead by the total working days. In your case, you may consider billable hours as the overhead driver. For example, if the total overhead for the year was $50,000 and the billable hours were 1,000 hours (an average of 20 hours per week for 50 weeks), then the overhead per hour would be $50 ($50,000 ÷ 1,000).

So, if we consider the wage to be $45.00 per hour (including labor burden) and we assume a 10 percent profit for the company, the labor rate would be 1.1 × ($45 + $50) = $104.50 (or $105.00) per hour.
 
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