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Fire Alarm Control Panel Recommendation/advice

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madekio

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Washington, DC
Looking for a recommendation on a dependable cost effective FACP for a warehouse with small open office, old panel removed and disposed of by contractor doing demo of room, tracing of fire cabling found the following in place:
Circuit 1) BGX-101L pull stations with M501M addressable modules (total of 3) on circuit with EOL
Circuit 2) Same as Circuit 1
Circuit 3) BGX-101L pull stations with M501M addressable modules (total of 4) and 6 addressable smoke detectors on circuit with EOL
NAC Circuit 1) 2 Gentex GX90S-4-60WR strobe/horns with EOL
NAC Circuit 2) 4 Gentex GX90S-4-60WR strobe/horns with EOL
One 4-wire anunciator circuit
sprinkler system tamper switch and flow switch.

Thank you in advance for your help.
 

gadfly56

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Location
New Jersey
Occupation
Professional Engineer, Fire & Life Safety
Looking for a recommendation on a dependable cost effective FACP for a warehouse with small open office, old panel removed and disposed of by contractor doing demo of room, tracing of fire cabling found the following in place:
Circuit 1) BGX-101L pull stations with M501M addressable modules (total of 3) on circuit with EOL
Circuit 2) Same as Circuit 1
Circuit 3) BGX-101L pull stations with M501M addressable modules (total of 4) and 6 addressable smoke detectors on circuit with EOL
NAC Circuit 1) 2 Gentex GX90S-4-60WR strobe/horns with EOL
NAC Circuit 2) 4 Gentex GX90S-4-60WR strobe/horns with EOL
One 4-wire anunciator circuit
sprinkler system tamper switch and flow switch.

Thank you in advance for your help.

The pull station model suggests that the pull stations are from a Notifier platform. I believe that Notifier's Fire Warden series of panels is their lowest end, but it is proprietary and available only from distributors, but you might find one on e-bay.
 

ryant35

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Location
Cypress, CA
The pull station model suggests that the pull stations are from a Notifier platform. I believe that Notifier's Fire Warden series of panels is their lowest end, but it is proprietary and available only from distributors, but you might find one on e-bay.


You call also go with the Firelite MS-9050UD addressable panel that is probably easier to buy and program than a Notifier.
 

gadfly56

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Location
New Jersey
Occupation
Professional Engineer, Fire & Life Safety
You call also go with the Firelite MS-9050UD addressable panel that is probably easier to buy and program than a Notifier.

Yes, but the devices came from a Notifier panel. I assumed he wanted to reuse the existing devices.
 

madekio

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Location
Washington, DC
They are not the same, I didn't realize the pull station was addressable. Either change out all the addressable devices or go with Notifier.


on the back of the pull station module it is marked Johnson Controls? advice on changing them out or keeping, their are too many panel options out there, ADI, SD, etc all recommend a different panel. Any idea as to why the original installer ran so many circuits? almost as if they wired each device homerun to panel? Thanks
 

ryant35

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Location
Cypress, CA
on the back of the pull station module it is marked Johnson Controls? advice on changing them out or keeping, their are too many panel options out there, ADI, SD, etc all recommend a different panel. Any idea as to why the original installer ran so many circuits? almost as if they wired each device homerun to panel? Thanks

To avoid conflicting parts you should pick a brand and swap everything out. I don't think you have to be a dealer to download the Fire-Lite programmer software so that is probably your best be to buy from ADI and program.

Notifier makes parts for Johnson Controls but they are not listed with Notifier or Fire-Lite. In fact none of the addressable Honeywell makes are listed across the different platforms, even if most of them are identical.
 
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