Fire Alarm Pull Station

[YOUNG EE]

Hello!

2- Questions.

1- Currently have a Fire Alarm Design which has the Pull Station is approximately 7-10 feet away from the exit door. I understand the NFPA 72 states Pull Stations should be 5 feet away from exit door. However, I believe there is an exception within NFPA 72 that states Pull Station could be relocated more than 5 feet away during a retrofit or if construction will cost high in value. I just don't remember where in the code it states that. Please advise.

2- Is it appropriate to have a splice within a Fire Alarm System. I understand the NFPA 72 is okay with it. However, would like to see if any of you more experienced folks would be fine with it.

In my opinion, I prefer not to be with it because a short would most likely be caused within the Spliced Location and afraid if the appliance would not be functional during an emergency event.

Your guys assistant is much appreciated.

 

[don_resqcapt19]

The only exception is for "grouped doors"

17.15.9.6
Manual fire alarm boxes shall be mounted on both sides of grouped openings over 40 ft (12.2 m) in width, and within 5 ft (1.5 m) of each side of the grouped opening.

I see no issue with a splice as the fire alarm circuit is required to be supervised.

 

[gadfly56]

The only exception is for "grouped doors"

I see no issue with a splice as the fire alarm circuit is required to be supervised.

Agreed. If you have a short in an alarm device circuit, you'll get an alarm on a conventional system and a trouble on an addressable system.

 

[LarryFine]

In the system I'm helping ElectKerwin with, there is no building alarm system, nor is a horn/strobe needed.

 

[gadfly56]

In the system I'm helping ElectKerwin with, there is no building alarm system, nor is a horn/strobe needed.

What exactly is the scope of work? Is this commercial or residential?

 

[LarryFine]

What exactly is the scope of work? Is this commercial or residential?

Commercial kitchen, about 40' of hood, two exhaust, one make-up, all 3ph blower motors.

All gas appliances, mechanical valve, plus three (two 120v, one 208v 1ph, 20a) receptacles.

There's not even a night-mode thermostatic heat sensor probe above the grease catchers.

There is also a separate pizza oven in another area that has only exhaust, no suppression.

 

[gadfly56]

Commercial kitchen, about 40' of hood, two exhaust, one make-up, all 3ph blower motors.

All gas appliances, mechanical valve, plus three (two 120v, one 208v 1ph, 20a) receptacles.

There's not even a night-mode thermostatic heat sensor probe above the grease catchers.

There is also a separate pizza oven in another area that has only exhaust, no suppression.

You need some sort of notification when the system operates. I assume we're talking about a new suppression system, or at least a recent one.

 

[LarryFine]

New system and new/remodeled kitchen in an existing restaurant. I'm stunned, too.