fire alarms

[electricalperson]

does anybody know where i can get some good fire alarm books? the ones i work with mainly is the honeywell fire-lite type. i want to learn about hooking the FACP to a master radio box, different terms they use and so on and so fourth.

 

[electricalperson]

anybody? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[peter d]

I like ice cream.

 

[electricalperson]

I like ice cream.

i guess nobody has a real answer for me

 

[peter d]

i guess nobody has a real answer for me

I could be wrong here, but I really doubt you're going to find a book on a topic like that. Connecting the FACP to a master box isn't really that complicated anyway. You can learn about that in a few hours and pretty much know all you'll need to know for the rest of your career.

 

[cschmid]

does anybody know where i can get some good fire alarm books? the ones i work with mainly is the honeywell fire-lite type. i want to learn about hooking the FACP to a master radio box, different terms they use and so on and so fourth.

the fire lite is heading for extinction..or is it already there..

 

[cschmid]

I am not for sure what you are asking..do you want to learn what the acronyms mean. How fire alarms work or how the communication between them work..

 

[peter d]

the fire lite is heading for extinction..or is it already there..

Huh?

Fire Lite is a brand of fire alarm control panel. Maybe because electricalperson didn't use any capitalization you must have thought he meant the red lamps inside of a watertight jelly jar that you still see occasionally?

 

[cschmid]

Huh?

Fire Lite is a brand of fire alarm control panel. Maybe because electricalperson didn't use any capitalization you must have thought he meant the red lamps inside of a watertight jelly jar that you still see occasionally?

lmao yep I know that but firelite is also not sold in our area any more. Buying parts is tough for them. so the company I worked for was phasing them out for the last three years.

 

[peter d]

lmao yep I know that but firelite is also not sold in our area any more. Buying parts is tough for them. so the company I worked for was phasing them out for the last three years.

Fire Lite is still just as it ever was, only it's under the Honeywell corporate umbrella now.

 

[cschmid]

another company assimulated. yet if it is not sold locally it cost way more then its competion.

 

[electricalperson]

well heres what i mean. when i read the manual i dont understand what they are talking about. they use terms that i dont know what they mean. i know how to wire them but when it comes to the more technical stuff i dont understand it all that much. i would like to learn how to program them as well. im sure im making it much more harder than it actually is. i probably just need to reread the manuals.

 

[cschmid]

so you are looking for a dictonery on the acronyms of fire alarms..let me research that before I stick foot in mouth..

 

[cschmid]

is this the one

http://www.firelite.com/manuals/15440.pdf

I have not mastered the acronyms myself.

 

[MichaelGP3]

Better

Better

http://www.firelite.com/manuals/15125.pdf

Since this panel permits connection of supervisory (i.e. sprinkler valve tamper switch) devices.

 

[electricalperson]

is there any type of online training available?

 

[DM2-Inc]

If you want to learn about fire alarm try the following links:
1. System Sensors "Training" Page: http://www.systemsensor.com/training

2. Society of Fire Protection Engineers (SFPE) Magazine On Line: http://www.fpemag.com/. Take a look through the publications and your sure to find some interesting stuff. The last several issues have articles related for fire alarm sponsored by NEMA.

3. Go to NEMA's Web site (http://www.nema.org/) and type in the term "Fire Alarm" in the Google Search bar. You'll have to pay for most of these publications and some are duplicates of what's available at System Sensor.

4. Try going to some of the various manufacturers of Audible equipment such as Wheelock (http://www.wheelockinc.com/), System Sensor (as mentioned above), and Hochiki (http://hochiki.specialbrand.net/).

I deal with Industrial and International Applications and unfortunately most of the manufacturers I work with don't publish much information for learning about "General Fire" alarm issues. If you look through the System Sensor site, you'll see where they have classes on NFPA 72, held through out the country. Not sure if they charge for them, but I've sent several sales people to the classes as they're not too technical.

Good Luck,
Regards,
Dan.

 

[RJohnsonMasterElectrician]

Go and buy the NFPA 72 Hard back code book.

Notifier has a school but I'm not sure what prerequisites are required.

In the next few months I will be taking the NICET Exam for level 1 and 2.

 

[peter d]

Go and buy the NFPA 72 Hard back code book.

I actually don't recomend the average field electrician buy NFPA 72. I bought it several years back and it was a waste of money. It's not user friendly like the NEC and contains a lot of information that an electrician will never need to know or use. Furthermore, it contains numerous terms and jargon that are fire alarm specific.

However, I might be more inclined to recommend buying 72 with the handbook. I have not seen the handbook but I would imagine it makes 72 easier to comprehend.

 

[RJohnsonMasterElectrician]

That's the book I'm talking about. It has all the codes explained in layman terms so its easier to understand. Just like the NEC hard back code book with each code explained in layman terms.
The normal NFPA 72 book that is strictly just the FA code is very confusing.