Fixture whips

[ptonsparky]

Are 16/3 or 18/3 fixture whips allowed to those little power supplies of the mouse trap fixtures? Above a grid ceiling in a residence. Grid is about 6" lower than original ceiling.

 

[augie47]

I don't see any restrictions other than those noted in 410.117 but I guess it could be argued that the power supply was not the fixture.

 

[Fred B]

Are 16/3 or 18/3 fixture whips allowed to those little power supplies of the mouse trap fixtures? Above a grid ceiling in a residence. Grid is about 6" lower than original ceiling.

400.12(1),(5) both options would restrict usage of Cords in such conditions.

 

[infinity]

Anyone have a photo of the " mouse trap" in question?

 

[ptonsparky]

 

[infinity]

I don't see an issue with using a whip with reduced sized conductors. The junction box is still part of the fixture.

 

[ptonsparky]

I don't see an issue with using a whip with reduced sized conductors. The junction box is still part of the fixture.

Ok, that is the sticky part.

 

[Little Bill]

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Mouse trap?
Those are just called recessed LED disc lights. Or commonly called "wafer lights".
Are you referring to the little pigtail from the light to the JB/driver?

 

[ptonsparky]

The springs that hold them.

 

[Little Bill]

The springs that hold them.

I meant the wire size of the pigtail. Is that what you are questioning?

 

[ptonsparky]

I meant the wire size of the pigtail. Is that what you are questioning?

Yes, the remote power supply isn't quite like going to a troffer.

 

[Little Bill]

Yes, the remote power supply isn't quite like going to a troffer.

That pigtail is a listed part of the assembly.
I would say any feed to the JB/Driver would have to be sized per NEC for branch circuits.

 

[letgomywago]

Most manufacturers make extension wires for those that are listed. I've seen as long as 12ft

 

[GoldDigger]

I meant the wire size of the pigtail. Is that what you are questioning?

ptonsparky's response was that the springs that hold them resemble the bars of traditional spring mouse traps. Not at all related to wire sizes or mouse tails.

 

[Little Bill]

ptonsparky's response was that the springs that hold them resemble the bars of traditional spring mouse traps. Not at all related to wire sizes or mouse tails.

I understand that. I made two statements in my 1st reply and should have made clear they were unrelated.

First statement was why he was calling them "mouse traps". Which he explained.

2nd statement was His question about the size of the whips to the lights, and I was just asking if the pigtail from the JB to the fixture was what he was concerned about.

I guess what's in my head doesn't translate to the keyboard very well!

 

[GoldDigger]

I understand that. I made two statements in my 1st reply and should have made clear they were unrelated.

First statement was why he was calling them "mouse traps". Which he explained.

2nd statement was His question about the size of the whips to the lights, and I was just asking if the pigtail from the JB to the fixture was what he was concerned about.

I guess what's in my head doesn't translate to the keyboard very well!

The problem, as I see it, is that you quoted the post you did not comment about and commented about the one you did not quote.
At least it looks that way. Possibly you just chose the wrong post to Reply to?

 

[LarryFine]

I see no problem with feeding a single wafer light with something like an 18ga fixture whip like you would use on a fluorescent troffer. Seems like the exact same purpose.