flat cable 8 mil thick
- Thread starter realolman
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Where do I find that product in Chapter 3? If it is not there, it can't be used.
Don
Don
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don_resqcapt19 said:
Look in Article 324. I installed a bunch of this junk in a commercial office building back in the 80's. Hopefully it will never be used again.
JohnJ0906
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"Currently going through UL/NEC process"
Hope it takes a real long time-looks like trouble waiting to happen.
Hope it takes a real long time-looks like trouble waiting to happen.
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Trevor,
I am aware of that article but it does not cover this application.
I am aware of that article but it does not cover this application.
Don
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don_resqcapt19 said:
Now that I look at the link again I can see that it's not the same FCC stuff that I had installed years ago. I looked quickly and saw the word floor and thought of FCC. My mistake. For the record I figured that you are aware of Article 324.
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realolman said:
Let's hope not.:roll:
Pierre C Belarge
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When products come out and get the RTL listing between code cycles, it does not mean they cannot be installed. The AHJ would then be able to sign off on it. That is the power of getting a listing. I have heard from an employee of an RTL that this product has a good chance of passing the test process for the listing. They have had to make considerable modifications, but so far have put the $$$ into doing this. I believe they think this will become a big seller in the "big box" stores.
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Pierre C Belarge said:
Pierre A AHJ can allow materials without an NTL listing, however I do not believe an AHJ could allow an entire 'wiring method' not contained in the NEC without a local amendment.
I bet that they can get it, it only has to be safe when used as intended to get a listing.
It would be up to the NEC to ensure the use of this new wiring method was safe. The NEC may well add it to Chapter 3 with severe limitations to it use, requirements for protection from physical damage etc.
Now that is scary.
Pierre C Belarge
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iwire said:Now that is scary.
I agree, but I am realistic. Until there are more bodybags or other severe related electrical incidents that can be directed towards these installations, the reality is "Big Box" stores will sell to whomever walks through their doors.
Most of us know that some of the electrical installations that are installed improperly will not be realized to be so, until it is too late or a number of years pass by and then the damage done is uncovered.
Yes, there are a percentage of these disasterous installations being performed by electricians, but it is my opinion that the percentage is tiny. Only time will finally tell, which will be even more frightening in the long run.
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