Flat Conductor cable

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I am wondering why 324.12, FCC (Flat Conductor Cable) can not be used for residential use? I am remodling a 12 story high rise condo building with poured concrete floors/ceilings.
FCC would be really cool to use here for floor recepts. in large open floor plans.
 
324.12 Uses Not Permitted.
FCC systems shall not be used in the following locations:
(1) Outdoors or in wet locations
(2) Where subject to corrosive vapors
(3) In any hazardous (classified) location
(4) In residential, school, and hospital buildings
 
I have installed hundreds of miles of this stuff over the last 30+ years in offices etc. I don't understand why a home with a concrete floor is any different. It propably won't have any 300 lb. filling cabinets on top of it! In this same condo I will be running under floor electric heat, so why is that OK ?
 
doesnt that type of cable have to be installed under carpet tiles, and cannot be installed under other types of flooring? That would rule it out for 99% of residential applications right there.
 
Used tons the stuff at convention show type set-ups as a temp wiring method, never even considered it for anything else...
 
Rockyd said:
Used tons the stuff at convention show type set-ups as a temp wiring method, never even considered it for anything else...
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i think two different things. the convention center stuff is festoon cable (for 5 conductor usually 10/5 up to 2/5) and SPT-3 for 12/3 edison extensions. This flat cable is this wierd tape stuff for under carpet (tiles)
 
Thanks for qualifying that, now I'll have to go google it up.:)
 
tstern said:
I am wondering why 324.12, FCC (Flat Conductor Cable) can not be used for residential use? I am remodling a 12 story high rise condo building with poured concrete floors/ceilings.
FCC would be really cool to use here for floor recepts. in large open floor plans.
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This is a sales rep for FCC cable. I meet him at a trade show.

Donald Schmitt
AMP NETCONNECT
Area Manager - Metro New York
Cust. Serv. 1-800-527-6686
e mail: dschmitt@amp.com
Cell 203-605-0380

Maybe it's worth a phone call to get Factory support and request a code modification to use in your application.

I've talk to people that have done this with MC cable used in health care facilities, and many modifications for single family homes.

Just a thought:D
 
When this stuff first came out, we were installing it in office buildings on re-models and tenant buildouts. The plans called for it and we installed it --believe me -- it is very expensive!! The prices on it, kept going up and up ! We soon realized it was cheaper for us to install a poke-thru --core drill the hole or two holes sometimes (for the feed) and extend power and phone to it than buy the flat wire materials. Somewhere in my warehouse i still have one greenlee gangbox with over $8K of flatwire and flatwire parts!!! It will blow up from any real abuse---like a high heel or a piece of furniture directly on it. And have any kind of water or dampness and it blows. I don't think it is suitable for a home or hospital ! It is a little tricky to install correctly and when you make a mistake- it is costly to correct. With the present cost of copper i should dig that gangbox out !!!!!
 
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