I have a cieling box in my livingroom with about 6 in of unsheathed hanging out. I would like to use a planer janer floresent light as the fixture. Question is, since the wire is unsheathed, how do I connect the safe, right way. Ex. run nm from fixture into box with nm connector. any ideas??
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david
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Are you asking if it is a code violation to secure a properly grounded surface fixture to a flush ceiling box, provide some type of bushing or chase- nipple and secure the fixture to the ceiling, preferably a structure member?
Are you asking if it is a code violation to secure a properly grounded surface fixture to a flush ceiling box, provide some type of bushing or chase- nipple and secure the fixture to the ceiling, preferably a structure member?
david
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DO you do electrical maintenance?
DO you do electrical maintenance?
renosteinke
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Could somebody translate this query into english?
Could somebody translate this query into english?
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Translation:
I removed my old ceiling light. Now I have an octagon box in my living room with about of 6" of stripped Romex (NM) sticking out. I would like to use an ordinary strip light (fluorescent) to replace the old fixture.
[Translators note: This is where it gets a little dicey so some assumptions are made]
Question: How do I get from the unsheathed pigtails to the fixture and make it safe & proper?
[My answer would depend on whether the new fixture covers the octagon box, or if the new fixture is remote from the octagon box].
Note to thawk: Is the fixture going to cover the octagon box? Is the translation close enough?
Translation:
I removed my old ceiling light. Now I have an octagon box in my living room with about of 6" of stripped Romex (NM) sticking out. I would like to use an ordinary strip light (fluorescent) to replace the old fixture.
[Translators note: This is where it gets a little dicey so some assumptions are made]
Question: How do I get from the unsheathed pigtails to the fixture and make it safe & proper?
[My answer would depend on whether the new fixture covers the octagon box, or if the new fixture is remote from the octagon box].
Note to thawk: Is the fixture going to cover the octagon box? Is the translation close enough?
charlie
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Thawk, your profile says you are a maintenance person and people are trying to help you. I want to know if you really are a maintenance person. As asked before, "DO you do electrical maintenance?"
Thawk, your profile says you are a maintenance person and people are trying to help you. I want to know if you really are a maintenance person. As asked before, "DO you do electrical maintenance?"
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I mainly do plant maintenance. Refridgeration, Boiler, Allen Bradley PLC stuff. We save the real work for the on site electrictions.
Let me explain myself to you. I am the type of person who is always blood thirsty for knowledge. I could spend a day reading through the message board for no particular reason besides the fact I may learn something I may never ever use, but at least I still know it.
yes I'm greener than green when it comes to electricity and it's theory but that's what I'm here for, to learn and this message board is great.
Now, this does not mean some day i'll get a wild hair and replace my service box or something else beond my skill level. Like i said towards the top. I'll save the real work for the pro's.
Yes the box will be covered by the fixture.
The knockout for the light will be in the center of the fixture. the fixture is rectanguler in shape and has no pre drilled holes for box mounting but will drill some if need be. Planning on mounting the fixture to cieling joists anyway.
I mainly do plant maintenance. Refridgeration, Boiler, Allen Bradley PLC stuff. We save the real work for the on site electrictions.
Let me explain myself to you. I am the type of person who is always blood thirsty for knowledge. I could spend a day reading through the message board for no particular reason besides the fact I may learn something I may never ever use, but at least I still know it.
yes I'm greener than green when it comes to electricity and it's theory but that's what I'm here for, to learn and this message board is great.
Now, this does not mean some day i'll get a wild hair and replace my service box or something else beond my skill level. Like i said towards the top. I'll save the real work for the pro's.
Yes the box will be covered by the fixture.
The knockout for the light will be in the center of the fixture. the fixture is rectanguler in shape and has no pre drilled holes for box mounting but will drill some if need be. Planning on mounting the fixture to cieling joists anyway.
gregoryelectricinc
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As long as there are no splices in the ceiling box and the wire is rated for 90 degrees C. all you should need is a snap-in type of 1/2" bushing.
As long as there are no splices in the ceiling box and the wire is rated for 90 degrees C. all you should need is a snap-in type of 1/2" bushing.
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Question to thawk: How old is this house? If the wiring is not 90 degree wiring you need to have an accessible junction box one foot away from the fixture for the old wire transition to the new wire. Use 90 degree wire to bridge from the old wire to the new fixture. Be sure to ground the fixture for proper operation and lamp life. Did you pull a permit for this job?
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Yes sir I do have a permit. this question could easily have been answered by my inspector. Problem is, with the rate of growth in this town, "Rochester, Mn" Inspectors can only be reached between 8:30 am. and 9:00 pm before they go into the field. The phone is always busy.. Can't blame them. Probally under staffed.
This is new wire. 14-3 nm that leads into a new box with a white coded for hot. I think all I need to do is run insulated mn from my box into the belly of the fixture connect my hot's, neutrals, and make sure the fixture is properly grounded. Secure with a 1/2" bushing. Mount the fixture to the ceiling joists "covering the box" and call for my final inspect.
Yes sir I do have a permit. this question could easily have been answered by my inspector. Problem is, with the rate of growth in this town, "Rochester, Mn" Inspectors can only be reached between 8:30 am. and 9:00 pm before they go into the field. The phone is always busy.. Can't blame them. Probally under staffed.
This is new wire. 14-3 nm that leads into a new box with a white coded for hot. I think all I need to do is run insulated mn from my box into the belly of the fixture connect my hot's, neutrals, and make sure the fixture is properly grounded. Secure with a 1/2" bushing. Mount the fixture to the ceiling joists "covering the box" and call for my final inspect.
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Sounds cool. Good luck!
Sounds cool. Good luck!
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I think most inspectors would think I was a major pain if I asked for them to come out and look at a single ceiling fixture replacement.
Wayne I would find it hard to believe that you would pull a permit to replace a light fixture.
I think most inspectors would think I was a major pain if I asked for them to come out and look at a single ceiling fixture replacement.
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This one seemed to have enough issues beyond simple R&R that might nudge it into the better to pull a permit category. It wasn't clear initially how much rewiring was involved. If the replacement fixture is covering the original ceiling outlet and the original ceiling outlet has proper wiring, then it would nudge it out of the permit required category-- in my jurisdiction.
This one seemed to have enough issues beyond simple R&R that might nudge it into the better to pull a permit category. It wasn't clear initially how much rewiring was involved. If the replacement fixture is covering the original ceiling outlet and the original ceiling outlet has proper wiring, then it would nudge it out of the permit required category-- in my jurisdiction.
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