For all of you above and beyond.

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yursparky

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WA
Just had an Hot Work class Thursday from my current employer :roll:
My previous employer, couple guys had an accident like this one, no PPE, no hotwork policy, no safety program - accidents happened pretty often. :mad:
 

yursparky

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WA
No money in the world is worth risking your life over.

We go to the GC with the request to have a shutdown, "but.. it's inconvenient, blah, blah, blah..." Why yes, sure, then sign this please - if this and that happens it's because you dumb*** wouldn't let us turn the power off. 99 times out 100 the response is - when can we schedule the shut down for?

And even the "small" stuff - testing voltage of a panel, wear the rubber gloves, wear FR clothing, the arc flash could happen at any time. Develop a safety policy, and follow it!!!! "We don't do hot work" is not a policy, it's asking for an accident to happen.

Even you, resi guys, need to have a plan in place.
 

480sparky

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Iowegia
For those who whine about the 'inconvenience', I simply ask "Is it a bigger inconvenience than having my family schedule my funeral?"
 

yursparky

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WA
Exactly my point. Transfer the liability to the GC and see how fast his opinion changes.

Just remember - a planned outage is always better than an unplanned one.
 

wireman71

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Want to thank everyone for taking to time to stress how dangerous arc flash can be. I know that the contractors I've worked for don't mention it, don't worry about and don't have PPE. There been a few things I've done or assisted on that were downright dangerous in hindsite. Like removing the cover off a running transformer and you had to tilt the cover in.. Very dangerous and stupid in hindsite.
 

Karl H

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San Diego,CA
To watch "Donne's Accident" is a requirement to work with me.Ever since I saw this video I've played it for every helper I've had.Temporary or long term.
I brought my laptop to a safety meeting 4 months ago and played this clip.
I was surprised that when we were watching this at the meeting no one was joking around,everyone was completly silent.I was surprised cause on this crew in particular never stop talkin and makin jokes.Then of course after the clip I told everyone "If this happens to me because of YOU ,you better prey I don't make it!"And still to this day I don't have Arc flash gear.Yet.
 
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