Furnace Failure Notice

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mkgrady

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Is there anything that can be installed in a home that would send a text message if your heating system failed? I have a customer with a boiler and on rare occasions the pilot blows out. This of course cases the heat to stop working. They want to be able to leave the cold winters here in Massachusetts without worrying about their pipes freezing. Seems plenty of wifi thermostats provide remote control and monitoring if you open their app but I don't see where a notice is sent.
 
Is there anything that can be installed in a home that would send a text message if your heating system failed? I have a customer with a boiler and on rare occasions the pilot blows out. This of course cases the heat to stop working. They want to be able to leave the cold winters here in Massachusetts without worrying about their pipes freezing. Seems plenty of wifi thermostats provide remote control and monitoring if you open their app but I don't see where a notice is sent.

A cold wife with a cell phone!:D
 
Is there anything that can be installed in a home that would send a text message if your heating system failed? I have a customer with a boiler and on rare occasions the pilot blows out. This of course cases the heat to stop working. They want to be able to leave the cold winters here in Massachusetts without worrying about their pipes freezing. Seems plenty of wifi thermostats provide remote control and monitoring if you open their app but I don't see where a notice is sent.
Sensaphone is the item I believe. Not sure of the catalogue #...I’ll look.

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yeah... nest has done this for a while. i never enabled it, as we seldom
freeze pipes near the beach.

what nest does really well, is tune your comings and goings, and trim
your furnace use. when i got one, spousal disdain was evident, until the
first months bill showed up. depending on the weather of course, it saves
us about $60 a month or so, according to her.

it also integrates with smoke alarms, etc. a couple hundred bucks, half an
hour to install and program it, and you are done.
 
Sensaphone is the item I believe. Not sure of the catalogue #...I’ll look.

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PHFGDW600

Sensaphone so passé. uses a phone line.

Thanks guys. When I read the features of a couple of WiFi tstats I did not see that they could notify. Anybody have a favorite one?
As others have said - Nest , Honeywell, and many others have low or high temp text alerts. Nest has a built in battery so if power from the HVAC is lost it will send a message.

You can always cobble one of those smart home systems together using a hub and temp sensors. I would also add water sensors too. Many of these integrate pretty well.

Samsung smart things
Nexia
wink
Vera
Iris
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@OP,
i am not sure of the COTS stuff, but an Arduino with appropriate sensor + wifi or ethernet wired, can be programmed for exactly what you want to do. i suspect using some sort of light sensor you can monitor the pilot light of the boiler, and if it goes dark then the Arduino would send alert and can turn on a alarm buzzer. or, perhaps a thermal couple sensor and if it goes cold the alarm is sent, etc.

if you need no-util-power monitoring then you'll need a small UPS for the Arduino power (wall wart), wifi AP, and internet access device, etc. if you want more fancy you can integrate a Verizon cell card.

past that, look to home alarm companies, those that use the Honeywell line of stuff have all sorts of sensors and what not, and, they have cell card options, all COTS stuff. my home alarm/monitoring system has additional fire detectors linked into my alarm panel, and if they go off the alarm panel sends alert via cellular to the alarm company who then dispatches the FD, and its all on batt backup. w/ a different t-stat i could link it into the alarm panel and program the t-stat to alarm on hi-lo temps.

NEST and the like are tricky, because they rely on other things like internet access, hence, it all needs to be on a UPS for it to be a good system. How stable is the Internet access, etc.
 
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NEST and the like are tricky, because they rely on other things like internet access, hence, it all needs to be on a UPS for it to be a good system. How stable is the Internet access, etc.

Any of these solutions would require internet or phone. The Samsung smarthings and other products report to the cloud if it is off line. Or that is why you use Auto fail over by cell use a router that has auto reboot or use a timer that cycles power to cause a reboot.

Their original product lines - yes. They also have web based products.

I did not know that sensaphone had a consume grade web enabled system. Price wise I still don't think they do. 350.00. A nest retail is only 249.00 . A lot more bang for your buck.
 
Not what you asked for but standing pilot in a gas appliance is very inefficient, the fuel consumption just for the pilot is a lot over time. It indicates obsolete as well as pretty old.

If it's a boiler, gas hot water, I would be looking to install a new condensing type, modulating fire rate, outdoor reset all built in. It's a no brainer, the old unit would be coming out. Likely there are pretty good utility rebates for the change.

If it's a furnace, gas hot air with ductwork, I really don't like ductwork. I would be looking to take everything out and convert to gas hot water, but that's more than the average homeowner would want to bite off.
 
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