GEC and meter base

[ivsenroute]

Who connects the GEC to the meter base and who does not?

I am asking this question because there appears to be inconsistency amongst POCOs concerning this issue.

Here is an excerpt from one of the POCOs that service my area:

d. Installation of Grounding Electrode Conductor:
The grounding electrode conductor shall be installed directly between the grounding
electrode and the service disconnecting equipment and shall not pass through the
meter base or be connected to any grounding lug in the meter base.

 

[480sparky]

We always go to the first panel, with the main in it. No GECs in or through the meter socket at all.

 

[LarryFine]

We can't land the GEC in the meter either, which creates a vacuum.

 

[Short.Circuit]

With a MeterMain we land GEC & Bonding wires there. With just a MeterBase,
inside in the panel.

 

[480sparky]

We can't land the GEC in the meter either, which creates a vacuum.

That's all? Doing so here creates a black hole.

 

[roger]

I have always made the GEC in the meter enclosure in residential services, it's the most logical place to make it. Why take a surge into the inside of a building?

Roger

 

[celtic]

We always go to the first panel, with the main in it. No GECs in or through the meter socket at all.

We can't land the GEC in the meter either, which creates a vacuum.

Same here, but we get a vortex

 

[ceb58]

I always land in the meter base. It has never been an issue with local poco's. But may I ask those that do not/ can not land in the meter base. Dose the poco provide the meter base?

 

[480sparky]

I have always made the GEC in the meter enclosure in residential services, it's the most logical place to make it. Why take a surge into the inside of a building?

Roger

I recall something about 'first point of disconnect', which the meter is not.

250.64(D)(3) in the '08?

 

[electricalperson]

i always land my GEC in the meter. our meter sockets are approved from nstar for that use. l put the number 6 awg from the rods to the meter and attach the ufer ground and water pipe to the panel

 

[roger]

I recall something about 'first point of disconnect', which the meter is not.

250.64(D)(3) in the '08?

It is only required to be made in a wireway or other accessible enclosure on the supply side of the disconnect.

A meter enclosure is accessible regardless of what some POCO's want us to believe, as a matter of fact, it is more accessible than being behind locked doors inside buildings or dwelling units.

Roger

 

[1793]

We always go to the first panel, with the main in it. No GECs in or through the meter socket at all.

Same here.

 

[480sparky]

It is only required to be made in a wireway or other accessible enclosure on the supply side of the disconnect.

A meter enclosure is accessible regardless of what some POCO's want us to believe, as a matter of fact, it is more accessible than being behind locked doors inside buildings or dwelling units.

Roger

But the POCO can make 'accessible' a real PITA.

 

[peter d]

But the POCO can make 'accessible' a real PITA.

That's nothing a cut off wheel on an angle grinder or Dremel tool can't handle.

 

[satcom]

That's nothing a cut off wheel on an angle grinder or Dremel tool can't handle.

Then you just pay the $5000 fine for meter tampering.

 

[peter d]

Then you just pay the $5000 fine for meter tampering.

Yes, if I was stealing power then I would surely have to pay a fine and face criminal charges.

If I have to change the meter socket or do service upgrade with one of those rings, then it gets cut off.

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

For years we would have to wait for the POCO to show up to unlock the meter...sometimes that could be days or even weeks.

Then I bought a Dremel and the wait time dropped to less than 5 minutes. If the POCO complained, we would tell them there was "arcs and sparks", it was an emergency... :grin:

 

[bbe]

We always land it the meter housing actually never seen it taken to the panel.

 

[480sparky]

That's nothing a cut off wheel on an angle grinder or Dremel tool can't handle.

Or the right tool to unlock it so no one will ever know.....

 

[NolaTigaBait]

Or the right tool to unlock it so no one will ever know.....

WHERE did you get this?