GEC & bonding jumper install

[nickelec]

Is it permissible to run service bonding jumpers through a service switch, through a meter can and through conduits containing feeders/or service entrance conductors

Or do they need to be run separate

I know that I can run them bare against the surface of the building but in this particular situation I would like to use the raceways and enclosures to get where I need to go.

I don't see anywhere that specifically says you can't . Note. 2008 code cycle here


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[nickelec]

Anyone?

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[Dsg319]

I’m sorry if I’m not understanding correctly. Are you wanting to route the GEC through all this or what exactly is it?

 

[nickelec]

The bonding jumpers from each neutral bus on each service switch to a common ground bus

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[augie47]

IMO, no problem in doing so

 

[Buck Parrish]

I don't see any thing wrong with it. It may not be required since you're using all metal.

 

[Electromatic]

230.7, Exception #1
Grounding electrode conductors or supply side bonding jumpers or conductors shall be permitted within service raceways.

Some utilities might not want to see it in their meter bases.

 

[Rick 0920]

230.7, Exception #1
Grounding electrode conductors or supply side bonding jumpers or conductors shall be permitted within service raceways.

Some utilities might not want to see it in their meter bases.

I was going to say the same thing. In some parts of the country, the POCO will give you that meter socket enclosures. They retain ownership of the enclosure and some don't want the GEC in there at all.

 

[Little Bill]

I deal with multiple POCOs. All but one allows the GEC in the meter. I don't know why they all don't. There would only be one point of connection and no bonding jumpers required.
The one POCO that doesn't allow it says they don't want the connection in their equipment (it's not theirs, except for the actual meter). But if running underground, they allow it. Makes perfect sense doesn't it?

 

[augie47]

Note the OP was questioning bonding jumpers which, IMO, are not subject to the same rules as GECs

 

[Rick 0920]

I deal with multiple POCOs. All but one allows the GEC in the meter. I don't know why they all don't. There would only be one point of connection and no bonding jumpers required.
The one POCO that doesn't allow it says they don't want the connection in their equipment (it's not theirs, except for the actual meter). But if running underground, they allow it. Makes perfect sense doesn't it?

It's crazy! I don't see the big deal about it. Some have funny rules. As far as dwelling are concerned, I honestly think the GEC is only there in case the POCO loses their grounded conductor. It would at least give you something for your 120v circuits. I really can't think of another reason to have it. Disconnect your GEC and see if everything still works, see if everything still shows proper equipment grounding.

 

[LarryFine]

As far as dwelling are concerned, I honestly think the GEC is only there in case the POCO loses their grounded conductor. It would at least give you something for your 120v circuits.

Not really. Earth won't even conduct well enough to trip a 15a breaker. It's more effective for lightning than anything else.

Disconnect your GEC and see if everything still works, see if everything still shows proper equipment grounding.

Don't disconnect your service neutral to see how well your electrodes maintain balanced voltages.

 

[Little Bill]

Note the OP was questioning bonding jumpers which, IMO, are not subject to the same rules as GECs

I understand that. My point was if the GEC lands in the meterbase, then you don't need the jumper like you would with two disconnects or panels.