Get foot in door

[Geoffrey Lyons]

Putting in application at local 38 Cleveland,Oh. tommorrow .Going in with on job experience,letter from present employer H R dept. varifying last 10 yrs of elec. installations,troubleshooting,and repairs in a Mfg. shop.Has anyone else gone in like this?What might I expect?

 

[quogueelectric]

They will want you to start as an aprentice the first yrs pay scale are low.
5 yr program starting at 30-40-50-60-70% of rate yr1-yr2-yr3-yr4-yr5 accordingly the prize is 45 bucks an hour is the current rate w/10%annuity 401k/vacation/holiday/3 separate pensions/ medical/dental/.
When you go for your interview generally 3 union reps 3 contractor reps and 1 impartial interviewer.
Probably 200 apps for 30 jobs by me so it doesnt hurt to know someone on the inside like father/son.
Everyone takes a state run aptitude test putting pegs in blocks w holes and flipping pegs over and shapes to shaped holes everything is timed of course.
Trick is to stay employed at about 85 bucks an hour cost you had better produce or you will be gone in a NY minute. Good luck with the interview.
They are looking in the interview for people with good work ethics and experience working out in the weather both good and bad.

 

[Brady Electric]

Get foot in door

Don't know much about union jobs
Sounds like to me that quogueelectric has good advice
In many years past if I left an application at a company without seeing someone I never got the job, if I sat down and got an interview I got the job
Good Luck
Semper Fi Buddy

 

[jrannis]

Putting in application at local 38 Cleveland,Oh. tommorrow .Going in with on job experience,letter from present employer H R dept. varifying last 10 yrs of elec. installations,troubleshooting,and repairs in a Mfg. shop.Has anyone else gone in like this?What might I expect?

Some locals have programs that will place you in a 1,2 or three status if you have trade experience. You should know all of the options before you start a five year program.

 

[petersonra]

Some locals have programs that will place you in a 1,2 or three status if you have trade experience. You should know all of the options before you start a five year program.

what is 1, 2 or 3 status?

 

[sgeers]

Apprentice Year 1 2 or 3

 

[cal1947]

electrician

electrician

if you meet the qualifications, you will not start out at 30% it will be much higher i'm sure, go for the interview at least with a open mind

 

[fireryan]

I have done this and they started me out as a second year apprentice. They make you take the aptitude test to see where you would place. You might be able to place higher. Did u say youhave 10 yrs exp? Do you have your liscence

 

[SEO]

Are you trying to get into the apprenticeship or sign a work book?

 

[wawireguy]

Also investigate if your state requires schooling for a journey card. See if the union is the only way to get into the trade. If you can get verified hours you might be able to get a journey card then apply to the union.

 

[James@CHA]

They will want you to start as an aprentice the first yrs pay scale are low.
5 yr program starting at 30-40-50-60-70% of rate yr1-yr2-yr3-yr4-yr5 accordingly the prize is 45 bucks an hour is the current rate w/10%annuity 401k/vacation/holiday/3 separate pensions/ medical/dental/.
When you go for your interview generally 3 union reps 3 contractor reps and 1 impartial interviewer.
Probably 200 apps for 30 jobs by me so it doesnt hurt to know someone on the inside like father/son.
Everyone takes a state run aptitude test putting pegs in blocks w holes and flipping pegs over and shapes to shaped holes everything is timed of course.
Trick is to stay employed at about 85 bucks an hour cost you had better produce or you will be gone in a NY minute. Good luck with the interview.
They are looking in the interview for people with good work ethics and experience working out in the weather both good and bad.

Can you really make 45 an hour with benefits as a JM Union electrician? I did not know that, this engineering gig doesnt sound so lucrative anymore...

 

[quogueelectric]

Can you really make 45 an hour with benefits as a JM Union electrician? I did not know that, this engineering gig doesnt sound so lucrative anymore...

yes I just looked it up to be sure 4/26/2008 44.75 --- 4/25/2009 45.75per hour Apprentice is split up into 6 pay periods over 5 yrs 35-40-45-50-60-70 % . Foreman get 3-10 % above min depending on manpower but usually work out thier own deals. 2 bucks is average. About another 35 bucks an hour in benefits I will try to find exact number but sometimes these numbers are hard to pin down.

 

[SEO]

Can you really make 45 an hour with benefits as a JM Union electrician? I did not know that, this engineering gig doesnt sound so lucrative anymore...

It could be depending on where you work and if your a forman or general forman it could be more. Care to guess what it costs to give an employee a service truck to take home?:smile:

 

[iwire]

Can you really make 45 an hour with benefits as a JM Union electrician? I did not know that, this engineering gig doesnt sound so lucrative anymore...

The rate in my area is about $62 per hour for a j-man.

 

[quogueelectric]

The rate in my area is about $62 per hour for a j-man.

What is the number in the check without benefits?

 

[iwire]

What is the number in the check without benefits?

I am not sure if that is pre or post bennies. I was under the impression that would be before bennies.

 

[don_resqcapt19]

Bob,
I would expect that is the whole package, but I could be wrong. The package in my area is $62.11 with $37.60 on the check for a JW. Boston is $61.58 with $40.73 on the check. San Francisco is $77.30 with $53.05 on the check.

 

[iwire]

Bob,
I would expect that is the whole package, but I could be wrong. The package in my area is $62.11 with $37.60 on the check for a JW. Boston is $61.58 with $40.73 on the check. San Francisco is $77.30 with $53.05 on the check.

That makes sense, I am 20 minutes from Boston.

Where does the difference go? Is that for health care, vacations etc?

 

[peter d]

That makes sense, I am 20 minutes from Boston.

Where does the difference go? Is that for health care, vacations etc?

I think it pays for pension, annuity, health plan, and a contribution to the apprenticeship program as well.

 

[quogueelectric]

That makes sense, I am 20 minutes from Boston.

Where does the difference go? Is that for health care, vacations etc?

Health care, apprentice programs pensions and annuity are pretty much standard but every local negotiates thier package on a % of hourly wage. Some locals dont have vacation funds or 401k programs. Each benefit package is locally negotiated or it is usually sent to washington to an arbitrator at contract time.