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al hildenbrand
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Re: GF!
Supplying an outside receptacle from the small appliance circuits used to be permissable by the Code, but no more. The last NEC I find it in is 1993 210-52(b)(1)Ex. No. 2
Supplying an outside receptacle from the small appliance circuits used to be permissable by the Code, but no more. The last NEC I find it in is 1993 210-52(b)(1)Ex. No. 2
macmikeman
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Nicely done Redfish -- head em all off at the pass.
Nicely done Redfish -- head em all off at the pass.
GG
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The older homes I go to on service calls have the 2 outdoor receptacles, the bathroom receptacle(s), and the garage receptacle(s) all on 1 GFCI receptacle. When was this the standard practice for residential wiring. Seems like alot of extra romex and work for what little it accomplishes. For the money the EC was saving on GFCIs wasnt he losing it on the extra romex and labor hours needed to install it.
[ July 18, 2005, 12:09 AM: Message edited by: GG ]
The older homes I go to on service calls have the 2 outdoor receptacles, the bathroom receptacle(s), and the garage receptacle(s) all on 1 GFCI receptacle. When was this the standard practice for residential wiring. Seems like alot of extra romex and work for what little it accomplishes. For the money the EC was saving on GFCIs wasnt he losing it on the extra romex and labor hours needed to install it.
[ July 18, 2005, 12:09 AM: Message edited by: GG ]
macmikeman
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Even earlier,all the above items usually were on a single circuit and fed from a single gfci breaker. The gfi receptacles came later on.
allenwayne
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If I remember correctly it was allowed to have kitchen dining, lights on S.A. circuit .Also bath gfci was allowed on the same citcuit as the lighting circuit.93 or 96 cycle changed that :roll:
If I remember correctly it was allowed to have kitchen dining, lights on S.A. circuit .Also bath gfci was allowed on the same citcuit as the lighting circuit.93 or 96 cycle changed that :roll:
jimwalker
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Makes it hard to do service calls when we often do not know what year code was used at time of consruction.But they need to keep changing codes to sell books
Makes it hard to do service calls when we often do not know what year code was used at time of consruction.But they need to keep changing codes to sell books
charlie
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Jim, I don't think that is a fair statement. We keep looking forward to the next cycle to "correct" or change and "unfair" part of the Code.
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After a day of routine ruffing and trimming or remodeling or bending pipe, it's a joy to get into something interesting like this forum and the Code .It helps the old brain get a little exercise. At the risk of sounding boring, the Code is the best book I've read in years, no matter how many times I read it , I still get something out of it.
After a day of routine ruffing and trimming or remodeling or bending pipe, it's a joy to get into something interesting like this forum and the Code .It helps the old brain get a little exercise. At the risk of sounding boring, the Code is the best book I've read in years, no matter how many times I read it , I still get something out of it.
Re: GF!
When I did 3/4 of a house rewire in 1988 I used 1 of the 3 kitchen small appliance circuits to supply an outdoor receptacle out front that was a straight drop down from the kitchen counter.
When I did a kitchen renovation in 1987 I ran 4 circuit for the countertop outlets ( larger than average kitchen ) and extended 2 of the circuits to the ldining room. I used those 2 circuits to also supplly outdoor receptacles including a small sump pump for surface drainage. The refrigerator was on its own circuit.
In both of these cases there were 3 or more small appliance circuits and I did not see how there could be overloading under normal circumstances except possible with running christmas lights while running a toaster oven.
When I did 3/4 of a house rewire in 1988 I used 1 of the 3 kitchen small appliance circuits to supply an outdoor receptacle out front that was a straight drop down from the kitchen counter.
When I did a kitchen renovation in 1987 I ran 4 circuit for the countertop outlets ( larger than average kitchen ) and extended 2 of the circuits to the ldining room. I used those 2 circuits to also supplly outdoor receptacles including a small sump pump for surface drainage. The refrigerator was on its own circuit.
In both of these cases there were 3 or more small appliance circuits and I did not see how there could be overloading under normal circumstances except possible with running christmas lights while running a toaster oven.
LarryFine
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I'm gonna tell!
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