GFCI In Bedroom

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If there is an outlet in a master bedroom that is within 6 feet of a shower in the master bathroom when the bathroom door is open does that outlet need to be GFCI protected?
 
However in the 2020 code, if that receptacle is within 6' of the bathroom sink, GFCI protection will be required.
 
texie said:
The doorway has been removed in the 2017 edition. This will change things such as a recep under sink as the cabinet door is no longer a barrier.
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The shower requirement isn't even in the 2014, so how can it have been taken out in 2017?
 
texie said:
210.8. In 2017 a door was considered a barrier. For 2020 a door is no longer a barrier.
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Does that mean if a receptacle is 1 foot away from a door, the first one on the other side of the wall can be 11 feet away?
 
LarryFine said:
Does that mean if a receptacle is 1 foot away from a door, the first one on the other side of the wall can be 11 feet away?
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I don't think he was referencing the spacing for general receptacles. I think he was referencing the rules for measuring whether a GFCI would be required. Used to be doing through a door didn't count in the measurement. I think it said something along the lines of .............measurements are the distance without doing through doorways, bla, bla, .........
 
Here is the section from the 2020

210.8 Ground-Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection for Personnel.
Ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel shall be provided as required in 210.8(A) through (F). The ground-fault circuit interrupter shall be installed in a readily accessible location.
Informational Note No. 1: See 215.9 for ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel on feeders.
Informational Note No. 2: See 422.5(A) for GFCI requirements for appliances.
Informational Note No. 3: See 555.9 for GFCI requirements for boat hoists.
Informational Note No. 4: Additional GFCI requirements for specific circuits and equipment are contained in Chapters 4, 5, and 6.
For the purposes of this section, when determining the distance from receptacles the distance shall be measured as the shortest path the supply cord of an appliance connected to the receptacle would follow without piercing a floor, wall, ceiling, or fixed barrier, or the shortest path without passing through a window.
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This is what the 2017 states
For the purposes of this section, when determining distance
from receptacles the distance shall be measured as the shortest
path the cord of an appliance connected to the receptacle
would follow without piercing a floor, wall, ceiling, or fixed
barrier, or passing through a door, doorway, or window
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Thank you for all of your comments. I had overlooked that section in 210.8 in the 2017 NEC that talks about passing through a door.
 
IMHO - This section was changed due to "Ifs" What if the bath flooded and some one plugged a wet vac into the bed room outlet. Then what if it had a tattered cord and a child stepped on it with the wet floor. Or what if some one was giving the dog a bath then tried to blow dry him with the bed outlet. If the St Bernard whilst dripping wet licked the dryer that had a fault in it.
But what if the gfci outlet in the bedroom had a dresser in front of it. So they would have to plug into the one in the hall that was not gfci protected because it was 6.5 feet away. That could be a disaster.
 
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Buck Parrish said:
IMHO - This section was changed due to "Ifs" What if the bath flooded and some one plugged a wet vac into the bed room outlet. Then what if it had a tattered cord and a child stepped on it with the wet floor. Or what if some one was giving the dog a bath then tried to blow dry him with the bed outlet. If the St Bernard whilst dripping wet licked the dryer that had a fault in it.
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Well I don't know about that but it does seem to be getting more and more like a design code
 
I think the confusion the past code or two has been over how to measure the six foot distance (when it applies). For example a receptacle under a sink might be within six feet of the "basin", but originally was not intended to be considered to require GFCI , so they added the barrier wording. Now they are simplifying it and basically saying if you took a six foot long cord, plugged one end into receptacle in question, if the other end can reach whatever is in question without physically destroying or disassembling permanent structure items then it is considered within six feet when applying that code section. I don't know if I like it for all instances, but have to agree it should be more clear when it comes to applying it.
 
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