GFCI In Kitchen question

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Hello to everyone,
I?m replacing all of the receptacles in a kitchen; when I first saw the job I though it was going to be an easy one. Not anymore!! I now discover that when the job was done, a 12-3 romex was run from outlet to outlet. At each outlet, either phase A or phase B was tap to create an A-B-A-B configuration. The problem with this is that the ground is share at each location. When I saw the job, there was two GFIs (one at each side of the sink) and that was it. I now find my self in a situation in which I do not know how to protect the circuits via GFI receptacles. I was thinking on putting a 2P GFI breaker on the circuits but I?m uncertain if this will work. I also though of installing GFI outlets in the first two receptacles in the line by breaking the neutral at each location (Neutral to LINE-IN in the first GFI, Neutral of LOAD to Neutral LINE-IN in the second GFI) Can I do this?? Please help!!


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Leos98 said:
I was thinking on putting a 2P GFI breaker on the circuits but I?m uncertain if this will work.
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Assuming the wiring is good than it will work fine and is an option.


I also though of installing GFI outlets in the first two receptacles in the line by breaking the neutral at each location (Neutral to LINE-IN in the first GFI, Neutral of LOAD to Neutral LINE-IN in the second GFI)
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Forget about any of that, you can not break the neutral without breaking the hot at the same time.

Use the two pole breaker or use a GFCI receptacles at every counter receptacle location.

I prefer the GFCI at each receptacle route but that can get expensive....but keep in mind a two pole GFCI breaker is not cheap either.
 
I special order LUTRON's satin devices and they are installed already. I left the two GFI for last without imagining the problem. I guess I'll do it via a 2P gfi breaker. Thanks a lot!!

Leos98
 
Just make sure you find the neutral for that 12/3 cable and remove it from the neutral bar and connect it to the GFCI breaker.

If you do not do that it will trip all the time.
 
I agree with Bob. Depending on the number of receptacles the 2-pole GFI breaker is propably the least expensive.
 
I know that you can not run load to line on a gfci it will trip the gfci, however I do know that I had a simmalar situation in a resturant and if you pig tail your neutrals at both gfci and land them under the line side that they will hold and will trip properly
 
Leos98 said:
I special order LUTRON's satin devices and they are installed already. I left the two GFI for last without imagining the problem. I guess I'll do it via a 2P gfi breaker. Thanks a lot!!

Leos98
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Be SURE that your 2-pole 20 amp breaker has a load neutral terminal. Many 2-pole GFCI breakers do not have a load neutral.
 
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