GFCI Protection for Electric Welder and Space heater?

kjroller

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Dawson Mn
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Master electrician
Is there any code that specifically states I need GFCI protection for electric heater and welder or is this specific to where the device is placed. They are both on 50-amp 240v circuits heater is hardwired and welder is plugged into 50-amp 240volt plug I just want to know if there is a specific code stating a must for GFCI protection or if I use 210.8 to determine that. My thought is 100% for the 50-amp receptacle but since the electric heater is hardwired, I am unsure I would assume so.
 
For the hardwired electric heater, no. For the receptacle, follow 210.8.

In general, check 210.8 and 422.5 for GFCI requirements. Also check any applicable articles depending on the equipment, which in this case is 424 and 630.

The only GFCI requirements in 424 pertain to floor heaters, so assuming you have a heater to heat the air in the space (such as a typical unit heater), those sections do not apply. 630 has no GFCI requirements.

GFCI requirements have been updated significantly in the last few code cycles, so it is important to check the version of the code in effect where you are, as well as any local amendments.
 
For the hardwired electric heater, no. For the receptacle, follow 210.8.

In general, check 210.8 and 422.5 for GFCI requirements. Also check any applicable articles depending on the equipment, which in this case is 424 and 630.

The only GFCI requirements in 424 pertain to floor heaters, so assuming you have a heater to heat the air in the space (such as a typical unit heater), those sections do not apply. 630 has no GFCI requirements.

GFCI requirements have been updated significantly in the last few code cycles, so it is important to check the version of the code in effect where you are, as well as any local amendments.
So next question does hardwiring alot of appliances instead of using receptacles EX(Garage door opener) get rid of the GFCI requirement in the garage for specific appliance? From what I can tell if its hardwired it would.
 
Yes, in most instances, hardwiring will eliminate the GFCI requirement because 210.8(A) and 210.8(B) only apply to receptacles. If the GFCI requirement is due to the equipment type, instead of the installation location, it can go either way (for example, hardwiring an EV charger eliminates the GFCI requirement, but hardwiring a dwelling unit dishwasher does not).

630 has no GFCI requirements.
Also, small correction to the above, new in the 2023 book:
630.8 Ground-Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection for Personnel. All 125-volt, 15- and 20-ampere receptacles for electrical hand tools or portable lighting equipment, supplied by single-phase branch circuits rated 150 volts or less to ground, installed in work areas where welders are operated shall have ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel.
 
Yes, in most instances, hardwiring will eliminate the GFCI requirement because 210.8(A) and 210.8(B) only apply to receptacles. If the GFCI requirement is due to the equipment type, instead of the installation location, it can go either way (for example, hardwiring an EV charger eliminates the GFCI requirement, but hardwiring a dwelling unit dishwasher does not).


Also, small correction to the above, new in the 2023 book:
Thank you for your time sir
 
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