Gfci

[Alwayslearningelec]

Do they require and islolated ground or seperate neutral all the time?

 

[Buck Parrish]

Gfci does not use an equipment ground. It requires a seperate neutral on the load side. In other words you can run a 12-3 to the box hit the line side of one kitchen gfci then on to the line side of an other gfci outlet.

 

[iwire]

Do they require and islolated ground or seperate neutral all the time?

GFCIs never need any equipment grounding conductor.

You do need a dedicated neutral on the load side of a GFCI unless it is a multipole GFCI breaker and in that case the same neutral must be used for each pole.

 

[augie47]

GFCIs never need any equipment grounding conductor.

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may I add the words "to function"

 

[Rewire]

Need a little more information ,A GFCI Breaker requires a dedicated neutral you can use a common ground,A GFI receptacle the hot and neutral cannot be shared on the load side but can have a common ground.

 

[Rewire]

GFCIs never need any equipment grounding conductor.

You do need a dedicated neutral on the load side of a GFCI unless it is a multipole GFCI breaker and in that case the same neutral must be used for each pole.

I will look again but I thought I saw on pools the GFI had to also have a EGC

 

[iwire]

may I add the words "to function"

You certainly can and I agree that other parts of the code may require an EGC.

 

[iwire]

I will look again but I thought I saw on pools the GFI had to also have a EGC

My answer was directed at the GFCI.

If I asked 'Does a 100 watt A-19 lamp require a ground' what would your answer be? :smile:

 

[augie47]

My answer was directed at the GFCI.

I just didn't want someone to take that statement literally and run with it ... "mr inspector, I-wire said it didn't need a ground"

If I asked 'Does a 100 watt A-19 lamp require a ground' what would your answer be? :smile:

my answer would be that your age is showing,.... CFL !

 

[GUNNING]

My thought is that if the EGC is there, hook it up. Otherwise, a GFCI is considered a Grounding Device by definition. As for pools 680.6 specifies GFCI 's are to be grounded.

 

[iwire]

"mr inspector, I-wire said it didn't need a ground"

Anyone trying that gets what they deserve.

my answer would be that your age is showing,.... CFL !

OUCH!

 

[iwire]

a GFCI is considered a Grounding Device by definition.

I have to disagree there, the code allows us to place a GFCI where no grounding means exists but 250.114 prevents plugging anything into that outlet that requires grounding.

 

[LarryFine]

I will look again but I thought I saw on pools the GFI had to also have a EGC

The receptacle itself does, but not the functionality of the GFCI.