GFI protection on motors other than pump motors for permanantly installed pools ?

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howardrichman

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OK; Are air blower motor(s) for an in ground pool considered "pump motors" in the NEC under 680-22B needing to be GFCI protected ?

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ronball

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THE SPA'S THAT I HAVE CONNECTED AREN'T AIR BLOWERS, THEY ARE CIRCULATING JETS, THAT FORCE ALOT OF WATER FOR IN EYELETS, AND THESE MOTORS ARE REQUIRED TO BE GFCI PROTECTED.
 

hurk27

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I have yet to see a self-contained spa or hot tub unit that does not require GFCI protection for all electrical equipment connected to the hot tub or spa, so with 110.3 in mind I would say yes.
 

howardrichman

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the air blowers I've been wiring, sit on top a 2" pipe 4' from the ground, and push air. I'de dout if there's any contact w/ water. I'll call local inspector anyways.
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growler

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Im aware, were still on 2005 though.... :)
stickboy I was reading your signature about "electricity being made up of extemely small particales called electrons that cannot be seen with the naked eye unless you have been drinking".

I guess that's why electrical work is easier when you are drunk, you can see what you are doing. :lol:
 

hurk27

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I don't believe they would require GFCI protection, IMO. The water heaters don't appear to need gfci protection either.
I would believe that 680.44 intends that all equipment in or on a hot tub is required to be GFCI protected, having electric heating elements that are in direct contact with the water to me seems like a good reason to protect such a circuit, as for air blowers go, i can see the argument of not requiring them, but almost every one I have worked on has always been powered through the integral GFCI for the hot tub.
 
I would believe that 680.44 intends that all equipment in or on a hot tub is required to be GFCI protected, having electric heating elements that are in direct contact with the water to me seems like a good reason to protect such a circuit, as for air blowers go, i can see the argument of not requiring them, but almost every one I have worked on has always been powered through the integral GFCI for the hot tub.
NEC is a MINIMUM requirement, use your sound judgement IN addition what you, as a professional, would think has beneficial purpose. Of course make it clear to your custormer the above difference between what you thijnk is required and what is the mandatory minimum.
 
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