GFI receptacles
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jwelectric
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- North Carolina
Re: GFI receptacles
All that are located in a location outlined in 210.8 are required to be GFCI protected.
Example, I install an outside receptacle on the front of a home from the living room circuit, only the outside receptacle is required to be GFCI protected.
All that are located in a location outlined in 210.8 are required to be GFCI protected.
Example, I install an outside receptacle on the front of a home from the living room circuit, only the outside receptacle is required to be GFCI protected.
lauraj
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- Portland, Oregon
Re: GFI receptacles
GFCI receptacles have In and Out terminals, so if you bring the power to the In terminals of the GFCI and continue the circuit from the Out terminals, you can use standard 3-prong receptacles for the rest of the circuit. For example, on the kitchen countertop receptacles, which require 2-small appliance branch circuits and GFCI protection, you should see 2 GFCI plugs with the rest being standard.
GFCI receptacles have In and Out terminals, so if you bring the power to the In terminals of the GFCI and continue the circuit from the Out terminals, you can use standard 3-prong receptacles for the rest of the circuit. For example, on the kitchen countertop receptacles, which require 2-small appliance branch circuits and GFCI protection, you should see 2 GFCI plugs with the rest being standard.
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- Lockport, IL
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- Semi-Retired Electrical Engineer
Re: GFI receptacles
Unlike the rule for AFCIs in dwelling unit bedrooms, you don't need to protect an entire circuit with a GFCI device. It is only the individual outlets that require GFCI protection. So look at the list that Mike pointed out. Those outlets require GFCI. If you are permitted to place any other receptacles on the same circuit, the other receptacles do not require GFCI protection.
Unlike the rule for AFCIs in dwelling unit bedrooms, you don't need to protect an entire circuit with a GFCI device. It is only the individual outlets that require GFCI protection. So look at the list that Mike pointed out. Those outlets require GFCI. If you are permitted to place any other receptacles on the same circuit, the other receptacles do not require GFCI protection.
ty
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- 3rd Rock from the Sun
Re: GFI receptacles
Straps,
I hope that is a GFCI Breaker in the garage that you are referring to.
Straps,
I hope that is a GFCI Breaker in the garage that you are referring to.
jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: GFI receptacles
You are on a mighty old code if your still runing bathroom receptacles with garage receptacles.Just where are you at ?
You are on a mighty old code if your still runing bathroom receptacles with garage receptacles.Just where are you at ?
electricmanscott
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- Boston, MA
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- Massachusetts Master Electrician, one man show.
Re: GFI receptacles
Even if this were legal it would be a terrible design.Originally posted by straps:
Standard practice in Florida put the GFCI in the garage and from the load side wire the bathroom lights and outlets off the same circuit
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- Windsor, CO NEC: 2017
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- Hospital Master Electrician
Re: GFI receptacles
K-Mark and Straps, you need to see the following.
Bathroom receptacles need to be on their own circuit 210.11(C)(3).
You need at least 2 circuits in the kitchen (dedicated to the areas outlined in 210.52(B)), 210.11(C)(1). Any receptacles serving countertops in kitchens and dining rooms require GFI protection (210.8).
Under the 2005, if a washing machine receptacle is within 6' of a sink, it needs to be GFI protected (210.8) and either way, needs to be on it's own circuit (210.11(C)(2), 210.52(F)).
You can begin to daisy-chain GFI-protected outlets after those dedicated circuits are taken care of. For example, the required GFI receptacle in the garage (210.52(G)) frequently protects the required outside outlets (210.52(E)) in the homes I wire.
K-Mark and Straps, you need to see the following.
Bathroom receptacles need to be on their own circuit 210.11(C)(3).
You need at least 2 circuits in the kitchen (dedicated to the areas outlined in 210.52(B)), 210.11(C)(1). Any receptacles serving countertops in kitchens and dining rooms require GFI protection (210.8).
Under the 2005, if a washing machine receptacle is within 6' of a sink, it needs to be GFI protected (210.8) and either way, needs to be on it's own circuit (210.11(C)(2), 210.52(F)).
You can begin to daisy-chain GFI-protected outlets after those dedicated circuits are taken care of. For example, the required GFI receptacle in the garage (210.52(G)) frequently protects the required outside outlets (210.52(E)) in the homes I wire.
jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: GFI receptacles
"Even if this were legal it would be a terrible design."
It was legal many years ago.And your right it was a bad design
"Even if this were legal it would be a terrible design."
It was legal many years ago.And your right it was a bad design
macmikeman
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Re: GFI receptacles
On those houses where gfi in garage feeds bath plugs, it always seems like thats the one behind a mountain of shelving and junk, when I am called to the house because the bath plugs are dead. Same deal for outside "dead" receptacle outlets fed off of a garage gfi outlet. You know the son of a gun is there, but you can't even see it.
On those houses where gfi in garage feeds bath plugs, it always seems like thats the one behind a mountain of shelving and junk, when I am called to the house because the bath plugs are dead. Same deal for outside "dead" receptacle outlets fed off of a garage gfi outlet. You know the son of a gun is there, but you can't even see it.
allenwayne
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Re: GFI receptacles
Don`t you love the old man that covers the walls in his garage with peg board and to get at a gfci device you have to move 1/2 the 1960`s and part of the 80`s and 90`s stuff he has collected and when asked where the gfci device is he always points to the most cluttered part of a garage.
As to bath coming off the wp or any other ct. wasn`t that like 96 cycle that allowed that?
If that was still allowed I would go back to putting all the bares in my cordless and using the 4/0 lug to land them Ok a show of hands who remember when that was allowed ????? anybody??
Don`t you love the old man that covers the walls in his garage with peg board and to get at a gfci device you have to move 1/2 the 1960`s and part of the 80`s and 90`s stuff he has collected and when asked where the gfci device is he always points to the most cluttered part of a garage.
As to bath coming off the wp or any other ct. wasn`t that like 96 cycle that allowed that?
If that was still allowed I would go back to putting all the bares in my cordless and using the 4/0 lug to land them
Ok a show of hands who remember when that was allowed ????? anybody??
allenwayne
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Re: GFI receptacles
A bath gfci has to stay within that bath alone and can operate all receps/lights. in that bathroom or make a loop from bath to bath these stay seperate butit is receps only when looping.
A bath gfci has to stay within that bath alone and can operate all receps/lights. in that bathroom or make a loop from bath to bath these stay seperate butit is receps only when looping.
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