tonype
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Give me some slack?
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ptonsparky
Tom
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Looks to tight from here. That PVC won’t hold much.
mopowr steve
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That looks to be someone overstepping the POCO’s responsibility. Usually there would be an Insulator for the triplex grip to attach to not just a J-hook. Not only that, but it appears that the tension is so tight that the triplex isn’t even supported by the j-hook.
hbiss
EC, Westchester, New York NEC: 2014
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- Hawthorne, New York NEC: 2014
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- EC
Around here you can't use a J hook (we call them hat pins) . Has to be a 5/8" eye bolt through a framing member with a nut and washer on the inside. So you ain't pulling that off unless the wall comes with it.
As to this situation, get the POCO back to install a new drop and this time DRIP LOOPS!
-Hal
As to this situation, get the POCO back to install a new drop and this time DRIP LOOPS!
-Hal
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
Certain POCO's here allow the J hook. They used to give them to you for free.
I agree too tight. Might eventually loosen up the connections in the meter.
I agree too tight. Might eventually loosen up the connections in the meter.
oldsparky52
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Your PVC coupling is upside down (or downside up).
ptonsparky
Tom
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- EC - retired
That’s alright. The strap above it will disrupt the water flow so that it drips past it. It’s called field engineering.
oldsparky52
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That’s alright. The strap above it will disrupt the water flow so that it drips past it. It’s called field engineering.
I had an inspector tell me he failed someone for that once. I thought it was pretty CS.
ptonsparky
Tom
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- EC - retired
I hope they have an expansion joint in there somewhere because that top strap won’t hold long at -20 F
hbiss
EC, Westchester, New York NEC: 2014
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- Hawthorne, New York NEC: 2014
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- EC
3 feet is a bit much. I've seen guys leave that much expecting the POCO to cut them back but sometimes they don't. Hangs down way too low.
-Hal
I'd like to see a code reference for that.
Fulthrotl
~Autocorrect is My Worst Enema.~
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- E
too twangy.
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- Tennessee NEC:2017
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- Semi-Retired Electrician
That's not even a coupling, it's the bell end of the conduit. I know of no rule about which way to turn it.
If we have to piece/extend a riser or mast, the shorter piece has to go to the top. I would say the installer in the OP used what he had, or in this case what he didn't have, a coupling! So he used the conduit w/bell end.
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
You failed for installing the raceway as shown in the photo, how is that top side of that bell end any different than a regular coupling?
oldsparky52
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I did not fail, the inspector actually was commenting on what he did to another EC while looking at my work (I had the coupling, ... "bell end" properly installed in his mind). I did not pursue the point because I had things to do. Just get my inspection and go.
What he did say is with the bell end looking up, water could get in (and like someone else mentioned, what about a standard coupling). I just rolled my eyes and kept on going. It was a long time ago, and it is possible he was messing with me. This guy had a reputation for "messing" with contractors.
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
POCO rule maybe, I am not aware of any required length of conductor here from NEC.
"drip loop" is to keep water from following conductor right into the raceway. Simply having the point of attachment below the weatherhead is a big step in keeping water from following conductors into raceway.
It doesn't look to me like extra slack would help at all.
Looks like the overhead wiring is coming in at an angle from behind the corner of the house.
I'm surprised it passed inspection at all.
The riser probably should have been 90'd to the corner and stubbed out a bit so the Service Conductors wouldn't be wrapped around the corner.
JAP>
Looks like the overhead wiring is coming in at an angle from behind the corner of the house.
I'm surprised it passed inspection at all.
The riser probably should have been 90'd to the corner and stubbed out a bit so the Service Conductors wouldn't be wrapped around the corner.
JAP>
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
This is the dumbest thing I've read on this forum in a while.
Although not a code violation, I would agree that it does go against the natural order of things.
If vertical we always face the factory end bell down, it just seems common sense to do so.
If horizontal we face the Factory end bell towards the direction the wire will be fed from. that way if it's not bottomed out fully in the coupling the wire wont catch on the lip.
Course then again, we're picky b**tards.
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