Ground conductor for multiple circuits in single pipe

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mshields

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Typically, I wouldn't run more than 3 single phase, 20A circuits in a conduit. I always run dedicated neutrals and a single ground conductor. So if I were feeding three lighting circuits via one pipe, I'd use 6#10&1#10G; the 10's are to account for the derating required for 6 current carrying conductors.

But what is I were to run say another 2 circuits in that same pipe. If left to my own devices. I'd probably avoid this to avoid the next level of derating but lets say I didn't want to avoid it (or I was taking advantage of a MA exception that allows a lot more than 4-6 for 80% derating. so for the 8 single phase circuits, I'd run 8#8's and here I'd run 2#8 ground. My habit being to run a ground for every three circuits.

My question is, is my habit exceeding what is necessary for ground conductors. Could I get away with a single ground conductor in this instance?

Thanks,

Mike
 

Little Bill

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The reference for this is 250.122(C).

But lets talk about your derating calculation. 3, 20 amp circuits with own neutrals would be a #12 if using 90 degree conductor. (30 amps X .8 = 24)

Correct!
Also, the OP could have up to 9 ccc before the derating would be enough to lower the 20A.
So the #10 for a 20A circuit is unnecessary. #12 would suffice since the derating only takes the #12 down to 24A (30 x .7 = 21A)
 
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