Twoskinsoneman
Senior Member
- Location
- West Virginia, USA NEC: 2020
- Occupation
- Facility Senior Electrician
I don't do a lot of HVAC but when my brother's outside unit breaker tripped I was curious about it.
When I took the plug off his compressor and ohm'd it the main coil read 550k so I'd say it's shot. (The aux coil reads 2.0)
What has me curious is the common contact on the compressor reads 0.1 ohms to ground (checked at the EGC, unit housing, and copper tubing). Looking at the diagram this seems like a ground fault.
However when I closed the breaker it didn't fault like I expected. I had 1A on L1 and 0A on L2. Also the outdoor fan came on weakly, not full speed. With the contactor open it shouldn't have come on at all.
From the diagram I can see how if the compressor common is shorted to ground then that could provide a path for the fan motor to weakly run. What I don't really get is why that connection to ground in the compressor isn't a fault. It seems like it should have tripped the breaker as soon as I closed it but it didn't. It didn't even pull any current. Assuming the EGC path is good (I think it is) why isn't it a fault if the compressor motor coil is shorted to the compressor case?
Thanks. Like I said I was just curious about it since I happen to be visiting. He's got an HVAC service guy so I don't think I'll have time to do any other checks before it's fixed or replaced. Any insight?
When I took the plug off his compressor and ohm'd it the main coil read 550k so I'd say it's shot. (The aux coil reads 2.0)
What has me curious is the common contact on the compressor reads 0.1 ohms to ground (checked at the EGC, unit housing, and copper tubing). Looking at the diagram this seems like a ground fault.
However when I closed the breaker it didn't fault like I expected. I had 1A on L1 and 0A on L2. Also the outdoor fan came on weakly, not full speed. With the contactor open it shouldn't have come on at all.
From the diagram I can see how if the compressor common is shorted to ground then that could provide a path for the fan motor to weakly run. What I don't really get is why that connection to ground in the compressor isn't a fault. It seems like it should have tripped the breaker as soon as I closed it but it didn't. It didn't even pull any current. Assuming the EGC path is good (I think it is) why isn't it a fault if the compressor motor coil is shorted to the compressor case?
Thanks. Like I said I was just curious about it since I happen to be visiting. He's got an HVAC service guy so I don't think I'll have time to do any other checks before it's fixed or replaced. Any insight?