Ground Fault Required?

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ken44

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I have a booster pump, it is cord and plug connected and it is inline with some plumbing in a kithchen that is in a commercial building. The AHJ told me to remove the GFCI and put in a single receptacle. He cites art. 210.8A excep. #2 and says to also read 400.7A6, A7, A8. I cited art. 210.8B(GFCI required for other than dwelling units). Is his article reference legitimate?
 
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Is this kitchen being used for commercial purposes?
If it is then you are correct.

400.7 shouldn't come into play as wither or not a cord and plug can be used is not the issue. and to make you remove a device that's above code is not a safety issue either,Even if it wasn't required as you are allowed to go above code.

But is boils down to Is the kitchen commercial? It doesn't matter what the building is classified as. It could be an apartment building and 210.8B wouldn't apply. But either way it don't matter because you can use a GFCI any where that is not classified as life safety. IE smoke alarms.
 
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Originally posted by hurk27:
you can use a GFCI any where that is not classified as life safety. IE smoke alarms.
Wayne what code tells us that?

Isn't that for a FACP not smoke alarms?
 
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Iwire:

760.21 NPLFA Circuit Power Source Requirements.
The power source of non?power-limited fire alarm circuits shall comply with Chapters 1 through 4, and the output voltage shall not be more than 600 volts, nominal. These circuits shall not be supplied through ground-fault circuit interrupters .
Does this fit?
 
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Maybe?

I think if household smoke alarms where covered by that we would need to use NPLF cables to wire them.

I am certainly not sure on this.
 
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Bob non?power-limited fire alarm circuits can use chapter 3 wiring methods. and there's not anything in 760.21 NPLFA that says the GFCI requirment only applys when a special cable is used.
Look at this:

760.25 NPLFA Circuit Wiring Methods.
Installation of non?power-limited fire alarm circuits shall be in accordance with 110.3(B), 300.11(A), 300.15, 300.17, and other appropriate articles of Chapter 3 .
 
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To all, This is not a commercial kitchen but rather a kitchen within a commercial building and the AHJ's problem is that he fears if the GFCI trips then it could create some water problems stemming from the booster pump.
 
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I'm not sure what the purpose this booster pump does. But if it just bumps up the pressure in the water lines then I cant see a problem. but if it has some kind of water removal purpose that could back up and cause a flood, then I could understand his concern, but It's not up to him to make this requirment as the code is for people protecting not building protection.
 
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