ofourcobra
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Hey guy first time poster .I live in mass.I am installing a jacuzzi and all the plmbing is pex ,do I have to run my number 8 all the way to the basement
grounding jacuzzi
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No, you are not ever required to run the 8 AWG bonding conductor back to the panel.
But there a lot of other requirements, if the hot tub is outside you must treat it like a pool.
But there a lot of other requirements, if the hot tub is outside you must treat it like a pool.
ItsHot
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Yep, but with a lot less chlorine!
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Is it a hydro-massage tub or a hot tub. To me a Jacuzzi is a hydro-massage tub used in a bathroom.
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I agree, when I hear the term "jacuzzi" I envision a hydro massage bathtub.
The answer really depends on what the OPer is calling a "jacuzzi".
Also on a side note I have heard there are hydromassage bathtubs that have manufactures installation instructions that state you must run a #8 from the tub motor bonding lug to a remote panel for grounding.
Chris
electricmanscott
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Why does it matter.
A hydro-massage tub has much different rules than a hot tub which is treated like a pool.
electricmanscott
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I didn't know that. :wink:
So which one would you have to run the #8 bond back to the panel?
ofourcobra
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Its a hydro massage tub in a bathroom ,I meant run it to the basement where I cold find copper pipes because of the pex in the bath
resistance
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Jacuzzi is a brand name. Saying you are installing a jacuzzi isn't telling us much.
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No you don't need to run the #8 bonding wire to another location to find metal water pipes.
680.74 requires you to bond all metal piping systems and all grounded metal parts in direct contact with the circulating water to be bonded together with a #8 conductor.
In you situation with the plastic piping system you don't have a metal piping system so 680.74 doesn't require any bonding.
Here is what 680.74 (2008) says:
Pay special attention to the part that I put in bold.
Chris
ofourcobra
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Sorry its a hydro massage tub ,force of habbit.Like I said the plumbers ran pex to the bath ,so the only actual copper piping is in the basement.Not to sure if I can run # 8 solid down two floors to the basement ,where i can get copper
resistance
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Buck Parrish
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If the motor has a grd. lug on it. You ground it to the bath tub faucett (spicket) The small piece of metal right before it attaches to pex.
ofourcobra
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Ok thats what I thought but it didnt seem right to me so I rather double check with the pros(you guys)thank you all for your response
electricmanscott
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Why would you suggest this?
In the installation described by the op NO bonding is required.
electricmanscott
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You do not need to bond anything. Your piping system is plastic.
Buck Parrish
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It's part of the circulating system. Our AHJ's make us do it. Only if the motor has a grd lug on it.
electricmanscott
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The water faucet is absolutely NOT part of the circulation system.
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No the small section of copper piping connected to the faucet is NOT a piping system, but an isolated section of conductive pipe. 680.74 only require metal piping systems to be bonded.
Chris
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