Grounding Questions

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Hey guys,
I have several grounding questions, if you can please help...

1) If you see the detail that I copied here, it shows GEC taps on the top connecting to a grounding bus bar, and the GEC's on the bottom connecting to the grounding electrodes. Where I highlighted in red, shouldn't this be a 3/0 copper ground wire as well? To me it doesn't seem to comply with section 250.66(A), where the wire doesn't have to be larger than #6 AWG. Or does it?
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2) In the diagram here, this is from the 2017 NEC handbook. The 350 kcmil conductors at the top / line side are the service entrance conductors. The #3 and #3/0 wires tapping from the 350 kcmil conductors, are those considered service entrance conductors as well? or are they called S.E.C. taps? or just S.E.C.'s?

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GECs to only rods or other made electrodes are not required to be larger than #6 cu, or #4 cu for Ufer electrodes.
 
Grouch1980 said:
Hey guys,
I have several grounding questions, if you can please help...

1) If you see the detail that I copied here, it shows GEC taps on the top connecting to a grounding bus bar, and the GEC's on the bottom connecting to the grounding electrodes. Where I highlighted in red, shouldn't this be a 3/0 copper ground wire as well? To me it doesn't seem to comply with section 250.66(A), where the wire doesn't have to be larger than #6 AWG. Or does it?
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2) In the diagram here, this is from the 2017 NEC handbook. The 350 kcmil conductors at the top / line side are the service entrance conductors. The #3 and #3/0 wires tapping from the 350 kcmil conductors, are those considered service entrance conductors as well? or are they called S.E.C. taps? or just S.E.C.'s?

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(1) This is the sole connection to a rod electrode and does not extend to any other electrode. Thus, it qualifies under 250.66(A).
(2) These are SECs. See the definitions for SECs in Art. 100.
 
Just a follow up to my first question in post #1. Say you don't have GEC taps. All you have is the GEC from the Service Switch to the ground rod. Does 250.66(A) still apply, where a #6 is the max conductor size that is needed?
 
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