grounding versus neutral

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hi guys,

can anybody explain to me the difference between ground and neutral. how is grounding significance to a power system.

i appreciate for your informative replies..

rajesh
 
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very basic difference is the ground does not normally carry current unless there is a fault to ground. The neutral or "grounded conductor" as I believe it is called has to carry current to make a circuit.

Grounding a power system references the voltages to ground potential.
 
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The neutral is a current carrying conductor. Under normal conditions, the ground is not intended to carry current. The ground is used as a path to clear faults (i.e. trip a circuit breaker or open a fuse when there is a short circuit). This helps keep high voltages from being present on exposed metal items.

Basically, the ground and grounding system is a very important safety system.

Steve
 
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The grounded (neutral) conductor is an insulated portion of the circuit that serves as the return for all normal operating current. The grounding (bonding) system provides a path for fault current by connecting all non-current carrying metallic parts together. At the service, the grounded (neutral) conductor serves both purposes.
 
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It is always wise to take great care with the word "ground." It is almost certain to be interpreted differently by the speaker of that word and the person who hears it. In fact, it is best never to use the word "ground" by itself.

There are two contexts in which that word comes up. Both have been mentioned above, in the other replies.

One context has to do with providing a path for fault current to return to the source. The purpose of creating that path is to permit the fault to have lots and lots of current. We want a high current because we know that that will trip the circuit breaker (or blow the fuse), thereby terminating the event. The correct, full, precise term for the wire that does this job is the "Equipment Grounding Conductor" (EGC). More common, but potentially confusing slang terms for this wire are the "ground wire" or the "grounding wire."

In addition, metal parts of electrical equipment (e.g., enclosures and conduit) are connected to each other, as part of the process of creating a path for fault current. The connections are made with "bonding wires" or "bonding jumpers," and the components are said to be "bonded" to each other.

The other context has to do with connecting a specific portion of the electrical system to planet Earth. In some other countries, England being one, this concept is not called "grounding," but rather is called "earthing." At the main panel in any building, the neutral wires are all connected to each other and to all of the EGCs. This connection takes place at the main panel, and at no other place. From this same point, a wire runs to one or more "grounding electrodes," a term that means a metal object in direct and firm contact with the dirt beneath or surrounding the building. The wire that goes from the main panel to the grounding electrodes is called the "grounding electrode conductor."

The most commonly used grounding electrodes are the building's steel frame (if it has a steel frame), the incoming water pipes (if they are metal and not PVC), and ground rods. The purposes of this connection to planet Earth are a subject of some debate. It is commonly said that it serves to create a common reference point for all voltages throughout the building, and that it serves to give a potential lighting strike an low-impedance path into the planet. Let's just stick with those reasons.

One final note: The neutral is more accurately called the "grounded" conductor. That is because it is connected to the "ground" (i.e., planet Earth) at the main panel.
 
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I've been a little curious about the origin of the term "neutral" to define the grounded conductor. One explanation I have come up with is related to the definition of the word neutral, which means something that has not taken any specific side of opposing positions. In the case of the ac circuit, the neutral is not specifically hot or ground. It is somewhere in between and therefore, neutral.

Bob
 
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Here we go again!

I believe "neutral" is the point which is equipotential from the "hot" wires in a service. The neutral is usually grounded.

If that is the case, the ubiquitous 120/240V service carries a neutral, but the older, simpler, 120V service does not. Likewise, a 4-wire, 3-phase service carries a neutral.

Ideally the loads are balanced and the neutral current from the poco would be zero even at maximum load.
 
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Bob,

I note that back in the 1905 Electrician's Handy Book, published in New York by Munn & Co., the following usage of the word appears. Note the yellow outline on the two pages posted below. Also, bear in mind, grounding of the neutral was optional on all but the larger dynamos of the day, and then, when the neutral was grounded, the proceedure had to be documented in writing by the AHJ.
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Must be a DC system since they speak of dynamos. No hint of AC there.
 
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