I was in the master bath of a new home and saw a duplex receptacle mounted in a handy box in the top right drawer of the vanity.out of the back of this handy box was a 12/3 sj cord that ran down inside the cabinet and plugged into a gfi receptacle in the wall.The hair dryer is left in the drawer and plugged into the outlet.When they need it they pull out the drawer and use the hair dryer without ever having to plug it in or out.Do you all feel there is any violation here or is this ok?
hair dryer outlet
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petersonra
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Re: hair dryer outlet
[ September 24, 2004, 03:23 PM: Message edited by: petersonra ]
How is this any different then just plugging an extension cord into the GFI and running it into the drawer? My point is what the guy has done is make an extension cord. You might be able to argue that its inappropritae to use an extension cord in this manner, but....
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i did the same thing on a highend home ,only we hard wired the sj cord to a junction box.Yes gfci protected and it passed inspection.Actually they had 3 of these in bathrooms and seemed to work fine
i did the same thing on a highend home ,only we hard wired the sj cord to a junction box.Yes gfci protected and it passed inspection.Actually they had 3 of these in bathrooms and seemed to work fine
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The only problem I can see is that there is a removable drawer and the SJ cord is hard wired Jim.If it was a plug connected on site built unit then OK but to be hard wired wellllllMaybe a breaker lock would eliminate the question of safety.
The only problem I can see is that there is a removable drawer and the SJ cord is hard wired Jim.If it was a plug connected on site built unit then OK but to be hard wired wellllllMaybe a breaker lock would eliminate the question of safety.
petersonra
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Unless I misread what he wrote the cord is hardwired to the receptacle the dryer plugs into. The other end of the cord has a plug on it and plugs into a GFCI. Sounds like an extension cord to me.
little george
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Is the wall receptacle within 36" of the outside edge of the basin? 210.52(D)
Is the wall receptacle within 36" of the outside edge of the basin? 210.52(D)
jimwalker
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We felt that a plug on the sj cord would likely cause more problems with long term use.This was in addition to required outlets.Hardly think that a receptacle in the drawer would quailify for the needed one.Personally i think the whole idea is somewhat risky but this is not an unusual request.
We felt that a plug on the sj cord would likely cause more problems with long term use.This was in addition to required outlets.Hardly think that a receptacle in the drawer would quailify for the needed one.Personally i think the whole idea is somewhat risky but this is not an unusual request.
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I would think that an extension cord would have to be UL listed or at least made up UL listed parts being used according to there listing.
I am not sure from the post if the handy box is secured to the cabinet or not if it is then it is permanent wiring and violates
400.8 Uses Not Permitted.
(1) As a substitute for the fixed wiring of a structure
I would think that an extension cord would have to be UL listed or at least made up UL listed parts being used according to there listing.
I am not sure from the post if the handy box is secured to the cabinet or not if it is then it is permanent wiring and violates
400.8 Uses Not Permitted.
(1) As a substitute for the fixed wiring of a structure
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Re: hair dryer outlet
To me it sounds like using a flexible cord in place of permanent wiring. It becomes different from plugging in an extension cord when you install a receptacle outlet into a handy box. To plug in an extension cord is the prerogative of a homeowner. To install a receptacle outlet and an handy box is within the purview of an electrician.
To me it sounds like using a flexible cord in place of permanent wiring. It becomes different from plugging in an extension cord when you install a receptacle outlet into a handy box. To plug in an extension cord is the prerogative of a homeowner. To install a receptacle outlet and an handy box is within the purview of an electrician.
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