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Hard Time Understanding 110.14 C

payneeco

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Using Mike Holt Understanding the NEC Volume 1 to Study for Electrical Exam. Here is the question: What is the minimum size secondary conductor required for a single phase 1.5 KVA 480 to 120 V transformer that is protected with a 5A fuse on the primary. I understand the solution until it gets to step 4 and they use 60 degrees c to size wire on table 310.16. This gets me a lot because I don't fully understand 110.14 (C)(1) ....which unfortunately is referenced a lot in a broad range of questions. Can someone help me understand when to use 60 C versus 75 C versus 90 C. I'm looking for ways to master just this one small thing. I'm thinking it would go a long way on the exam if I just fully understood this one thing. 1728489094648.png
 

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If the device at either end of the conductor such as a breaker or receptacle is rated 60 deg then you are limited to the 60 deg ampacity of the conductor. For example if you are using a THWN conductor rated 40 amps at 90 deg and 20 amps at 60 deg you would be limited to the 20 amp rating if the termination was dated 60 deg
 
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If I had to explain it, I would say,

What connects to the wire? What is the temperature rating of that connection?

Not all connectors or places where wire lands are rated the same temperature.

Why does temperature matter?

That is the definition of ampacity. The rating at which a conductor can properly conduct without exceeding the temperature of it's insulation. Basically, melting.

So, if see a breaker is rated 40A, then how do you know what temperature they got the rating at? What temperature will the 40A breaker trip at 40A?

That requires some background knowledge on 110.14(C). UL AALZ and their white book, talk about the temperature limitations and ampacities in a given range when the value is not clearly known by product labeling.

What is the ampacity rating of #8 copper thwn-2. that is in free air when landed on a panelboard that says "rated at 60°C" on the inside of the door? 40A. You can not exceed the temperature rating of the board it lands in.

If there is no rating, and it is less than 100A you assume 60°C and 75°C for everything above.


What about the 90°C ratings and the free air ratings? Those can be used to derate the ampacity. Those are never the rating of equipment.

You can, however, have splices rated higher.

A use case for free air would be if you had 3 runs of a conductor connect to the equipment, exit to a cable tray, have a splice and reduce it for the free air temperature rating, then splice again to have 3 runs enter the termination equipment.

Or if you wanted to run 6 current carrying conductors and a load over 100A in one conduit, you could use the 90°C temperature rating to derate but should not be less than the 75°C temperature rating where it lands. For example, one conduit, two runs of 3 phase 208V for a car charger than is 32A load, 40A breaker, and you are running #8 copper thwn-2. You have 6 CCCs, 80% derating, at the 90°C temp, gives you 55A*.8 = 44A which is more than the breaker and load so you are good.
 

payneeco

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Thanks for all the feedback to my question. These are awesome explanations of 110.14(C) and super helpful. Let me make sure I fully understand.

@Elect117, you said "If there is no rating, and it is less than 100A you assume 60°C and 75°C for everything above." I think this answers my question!

110.14(C)(1) Equipment Provisions says "The determination of termination provisions of equipment shall be based on 110.14(C)(1)(a) or 110.14(C)(1)(b)."

110.14(C)(1)(a) supports "100A or less assume 60°C"
110.14(C)(1)(b) supports "greater than 100A assume 75C"

In the example question, the termination temperature wasn't listed or marked so we turn to the amperage. The amperage was determined to be 20amps. 20amps is under 100A so we assume 60C!

Thanks so much for all the help!
 
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