Has Anyone Seen This Box Before??

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Jerramundi

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I'm hoping to get an identification on this box for both present and future use.

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It appeared to be a standard 4" x 4" 1900 from the appearances of the inside KO's... although I did wonder why there wasn't a blank side where the bracket was... Then I cut the wall to change the ring and got my answer.

It appears that a 1G 5/8" Ring is ONE with the box and there's a front facing bracket to the right.

I've never seen a 1900 where the ring is ONE with the box 😩
Masonry boxes, gem boxes, etc. sure... but this one is a new one to me.

Anybody seen it before?

Thanks.
 
That's an odd one. This is one of those products that is probably lost to history. After WW2 up until all the consolidations started (in the 80s?) there were ALOT of manufacturers of electrical supplies and equipment. Some disappeared and others got balled up into the three multinational conglomerates (plus leviton + southwire) that seem to make everything today.
 
That's an odd one.
Yeah. I'm not familiar with anything 4" x 4" that comes with a plaster ring all as one piece... other than some masonry boxes.

Seems pretty stupid to me. Seems like bottom of the garage pile, let's get rid of this one and save $2 kinda BS.

If someone handed this box to me and asked me to install it, I would immediately recognize that the ring is not changeable and throw it where it belongs, in the trash.
 
I've encountered them before.

I can't remember if it was in a 1930s era 8 unit apartment building or a 1950s era condo.

Used with black RMC
 
Sounds like a box the GARVIN used to make. The bracket would allow it to be horizontal or vertical, and the "ring" was integral to the box. I ran into some both when I worked for a supply house in the late 1970's, and a few houses done in the late 1960's, early 1970's. I guess the "flatters" likes them, as it saved installing the rings..... what a dog if later the homeowner wanted a double duplex, or 2 switches


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