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Help identifying breaker

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shockking

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Location
Sacramento, CA
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engineer
Hi all. I'm doing a coordination study in SKM for an elevator renovation project. The elevator panel is fed from this breaker (position six, middle right). I just have these pictures. Any idea what make/model of breaker this is? How would you model this in SKM? TIA

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PaulMmn

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Union, KY, USA
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EIT - Engineer in Training, Lafayette College
The emblems at the top say it's a Westinghouse.... Looks like a 'clean' installation-- no one's been monkeying with the circuits!
 

kwired

Electron manager
Location
NE Nebraska
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EC
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snipped from one the labels above the breakers. I can't read it very well, but definitely some type of Westinghouse breaker. Hopefully Eaton still makes something compatible with this
 

topgone

Senior Member
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snipped from one the labels above the breakers. I can't read it very well, but definitely some type of Westinghouse breaker. Hopefully Eaton still makes something compatible with this
I've seen some of those in my green days. It could be a De-Ion circuit breaker. See the lower breaker type codes JA, KA, LA and MA. Definitely a Westinghouse make.
 

jim dungar

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Location
Wisconsin
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PE (Retired) - Power Systems
Take off the cover with the engraved label all of the breaker info is behind that plate.
Not likely. Back in the pre 80's, most manufacturers included very limited information on the breaker. You might get lucky and find a paper part number label on the end near the lugs or on the side of the breaker.

I have no doubt this is a Westinghouse breaker complying with the panel label.
 

PaulMmn

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Location
Union, KY, USA
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EIT - Engineer in Training, Lafayette College
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snipped from one the labels above the breakers. I can't read it very well, but definitely some type of Westinghouse breaker. Hopefully Eaton still makes something compatible with this
The 2nd label from the left appears to say 'Westinghouse," plus it has the Westinghouse little round logos on both ends.
 

Strathead

Senior Member
Location
Ocala, Florida, USA
Occupation
Electrician/Estimator/Project Manager/Superintendent
Hi all. I'm doing a coordination study in SKM for an elevator renovation project. The elevator panel is fed from this breaker (position six, middle right). I just have these pictures. Any idea what make/model of breaker this is? How would you model this in SKM? TIA

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Just an observation, I would have to severely question the veracity of any coordination study on these breakers. The trip accuracy was way less back in those days to begin with and then you are adding 40 plus years of grease hardening spring wear etc. As an electrician I would say, "Not my issue, the EE told us to do it." I would not recommend an EE stamp it though.
 

topgone

Senior Member
Just an observation, I would have to severely question the veracity of any coordination study on these breakers. The trip accuracy was way less back in those days to begin with and then you are adding 40 plus years of grease hardening spring wear etc. As an electrician I would say, "Not my issue, the EE told us to do it." I would not recommend an EE stamp it though.
Back in the day, we would have everything that we see as doubtful tested. I you have a high current test set, you can sleep well at night knowing your install will do as required. Though not everyone is fortunate to have/ avail of these test sets.
 

shockking

Member
Location
Sacramento, CA
Occupation
engineer
Thanks all. This has been really helpful. We did end up taking off the trim plate:

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Just an observation, I would have to severely question the veracity of any coordination study on these breakers. The trip accuracy was way less back in those days to begin with and then you are adding 40 plus years of grease hardening spring wear etc. As an electrician I would say, "Not my issue, the EE told us to do it." I would not recommend an EE stamp it though.
Good point. I'll keep this mind, thank you.
 
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