HELP indoor overhead pool fixtures

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I am wiring a residential indoor swimming pool that I thought was already engineered,but I have to come up with the lighting design.
The roof is mostly glass with only the beams for support. Are there any fixtures made to withstand this environment? Or should that not be a concern? Owner wants to have them dimmable and does not want flouresent.
Please help with any info you might have. Thanks
 
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The requirements are in 2005 NEC 680.22(B). I'd make the fixtures wet location. I'd also recommend NOT putting any fixtures over the water -- otherwise, to safely change the lamps the owner would need to drain the pool. I tend to use linear fluorescent around the perimeter. Forum Lighting had a line of fixtures specifically for pools. I haven't designed pool lighting in a while and the Forum catalogs don't want to download completely to my computer today, so I can't give model numbers. You could also call a local lighting rep for suggestions.

Martin
 
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You can also try using fiber optics...no electrical over the pool, and bulb changes are done remotely. Lucifer lighting, and Fiberstars are good ones to look at, check out the websites for ideas. I think that you would need to have them or their rep work with you to design it. The upside is that they have Metal halide sources. Incandescent requires some filtering to look good with a pool. When the yellowish light shines on the water and mixes with the blue from the underwater lights (you did put blue filters on those right?), the water will look sort of yellowish, like somebody peed in the pool. Not good! You shouldn't need much light over the pool anyways, as the underwater lights will contribute a lot to the general lighting. Halogen downlights or spot fixtures with "daylight blue" filters can help with lighting the deck, etc. If you use flourescent, 4100k bulbs will have the blue look to match the pool. Maybe you can sell the owner on an indirect system that hides the floursecent bulbs. Most people think $15 POS shoplights the first time you say flourescent. When you show them a high end CFL downlight with a 3000k bulb, they don't even know it's not incandescent.
 
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Thanks Martin
Forum lighting's catolog does not work for me neither. It must be thier problem. My local lighting reps have not been much help. Indoor residential pools in this area are not common.
I am thinking maybe some of those lites overhead and some incandescent decorative post lites so I can dim them for the right ambience.
Foundations are being poured Monday and time is kicking me in the a--.
 
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The Forum part number was BAG-6060-NAT. This was several years ago, so numbering and/or products may have changed. It's a linear fixture. I used 96" 800ma T12 lamps. I wouldn't spec metal halide for a residence, especially indoors.

Martin
 
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SPI makes some nice indirect lighting. I agree that a fluorescent could be sold to them if you show them that the lamp is hiden, and tell them that the electronic ballasts and new lamp have eliminated the flickering and yeild nice colors. If they have to have HID you could have "poor mans's "dimming by multiswitching options. You could mount the lights on the walls around the pool. I also like the fiber optics option. You could put the fibers right in the water. No electricity.
 
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