Help with install?

[dmalkokian]

Splicing in wire gutter?
So need help here. Doing a panel changeout next week and want to know your guy's opinions. I was thinking of putting a wire gutter above the panel and splice the existing wire with the new wire. But my boss said to just use the existing wire.

 

[Greentagger]

Splicing in wire gutter?
So need help here. Doing a panel changeout next week and want to know your guy's opinions. I was thinking of putting a wire gutter above the panel and splice the existing wire with the new wire. But my boss said to just use the existing wire.

He’s the boss and paying the tab.
Set your panels and use existing flexes and MC’s as long as conducors are long enough.
Make or have provisions to splice conductors that will be too short.
Did boss look at job before bidding or accepting?
Did I miss something? Gutter might be cleaner but many bosses don’t care about cosmetics over bottom line.

 

[dmalkokian]

Ty if I would have put gutter are there any codes for splicing wires if they are short?

 

[qcroanoke]

Ty if I would have put gutter are there any codes for splicing wires if they are short?

If they are service conductors they were not allowed to be spliced but that may have changed I believe

 

[James L]

Ty if I would have put gutter are there any codes for splicing wires if they are short?

If you use a gutter, most likely you will have only one or two nipples going between the gutter and a new panel. In that case, you would have multiple neutral wires going through the nipple, and you would have to identify the neutral and the corresponding hot wire(s) it matches.

The wires can be bundled or numbered, as long as you make it obvious which neutrals and hots go together

NEC 200.4(B)

 

[ptonsparky]

We tried not extend any conductors past the 6' limit to avoid having to add AFCIs. IDK if the gutter will add any length but it does add cost up front.

The boss is the boss, so I agree. No gutter

 

[hbiss]

I see two meters and four panels, two with EMT in addition to armored cables. You seemingly speak of one panel. What exactly are you going to do?

-Hal

 

[dmalkokian]

Yes it's a two-house apartment. Hence the two meter

 

[hbiss]

Yes it's a two-house apartment. Hence the two meter

Two apartment house.

So, you are installing two panels, one for each apartment? If so, I think you will have plenty of slack in the existing cables since the new panels will be considerably larger in height.

-Hal

 

[ggunn]

If they are service conductors they were not allowed to be spliced but that may have changed I believe

I have seen service conductors split out to multiple service disconnects via Polaris Blocks in gutters many times.