Hole Sizes for Recessed Lighting

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Little Bill

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Does anyone know if the different mfg of remodel recessed lighting all require the same size hole to be cut for the lights? In other words, does Halo 4" need the same size as Juno, or 4" Litolier? I've only used the templates that come with the lights and have not measured them.
I have a new "Hole Pro" hole saw and would like to know if I can pretty much use the same setting, whether 4,5, or 6", for different mfg. I do know that some of the air tight housings could use a larger hole than their template. They don't tell you that in their spec sheet though.
 

Gac66610

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I don't know about all, but i know the 6" hole for Juno re-mod is way to big for the 6" HO's pick up think they where Commercial Electric brand (re-mod)
 

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Wouldn't it be nice if the manufacturers standardized the holes? IMO it won't happen. :roll:
 

svh19044

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Wouldn't that be nice! :D

The Lightolier hole saw kit comes with a template for all of their series, and you bump them in or out just a little bit depending on other manufacturers.

If the Hole Pro is half as good as the Lightolier kit, you're gonna love it. :thumbsup:

I've cut around 1000 drywall holes with this kit, with very rare cleaning and never a deep cleaning. It was time to just get another one, as the bits are $22 a set. The entire cutter kit was $98, and comes with two sets. :lol:

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B4T

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I have different size holesaws and check a can on a scrap piece of drywall before I go to the job..

Things are changing everytime a company is bought and sold and the only 100% sure way of avoiding a screw up is check.. check.. check..

HD also sells 24"X24" pieces of drywall so you really have no excuse if you make a mistake..
 

Little Bill

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Wouldn't that be nice! :D

The Lightolier hole saw kit comes with a template for all of their series, and you bump them in or out just a little bit depending on other manufacturers.

If the Hole Pro is half as good as the Lightolier kit, you're gonna love it. :thumbsup:

I've cut around 1000 drywall holes with this kit, with very rare cleaning and never a deep cleaning. It was time to just get another one, as the bits are $22 a set. The entire cutter kit was $98, and comes with two sets. :lol:

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Did that kit come with all those pilot bits? Why would you need so many? It looks like there are masonry bits in there. Everything else looks close to what the Hole Pro kit has.

I have different size holesaws and check a can on a scrap piece of drywall before I go to the job..

Things are changing everytime a company is bought and sold and the only 100% sure way of avoiding a screw up is check.. check.. check..

HD also sells 24"X24" pieces of drywall so you really have no excuse if you make a mistake..

That was one of the reasons for my question. I have some scrap drywall and wanted to try it out before taking it to a job. I really don't want to buy a can in each size for every mfg.:happysad:
 

svh19044

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Did that kit come with all those pilot bits? Why would you need so many? It looks like there are masonry bits in there. Everything else looks close to what the Hole Pro kit has.

I don't know what the point is of all those pilot bits, I haven't used them in the past 2 years. :lol:



That was one of the reasons for my question. I have some scrap drywall and wanted to try it out before taking it to a job. I really don't want to buy a can in each size for every mfg.:happysad:

Every can that I use has a cutout size listed and it's not hard to find either. If you are off 1/16th of an inch, it's not going to matter. If the hole pro is like the lightolier kit, it's got exact numbers on the bar to make an exact size hole, so you shouldn't even be off that 1/16th.

I guess a good tip for these kits is do NOT apply a lot of pressure, keep a medium speed, and don't let off. And again, do NOT apply a lot of pressure (especially at the beginning and the end, if too much pressure is applied, at the beginning will rip the edge of the drywall, and the end if will push through too quick leaving marks outside of where the trims cover).
 
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B4T

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Did that kit come with all those pilot bits? Why would you need so many? It looks like there are masonry bits in there. Everything else looks close to what the Hole Pro kit has.



That was one of the reasons for my question. I have some scrap drywall and wanted to try it out before taking it to a job. I really don't want to buy a can in each size for every mfg.:happysad:

I buy all my material a few days before I need it for a job.. that gives you time to make sure you have all the parts and proper tools to do the job..
 

Little Bill

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Every can that I use has a cutout size listed and it's not hard to find either. If you are off 1/16th of an inch, it's not going to matter. If the hole pro is like the lightolier kit, it's got exact numbers on the bar to make an exact size hole, so you shouldn't even be off that 1/16th.

I guess a good tip for these kits is do NOT apply a lot of pressure, keep a medium speed, and don't let off. And again, do NOT apply a lot of pressure (especially at the beginning and the end, if too much pressure is applied, at the beginning will rip the edge of the drywall, and the end if will push through too quick leaving marks outside of where the trims cover).

I looked up the halo cans on their website. For the hole size it said "just use the template". Thanks Halo for being so helpful.:slaphead:
 
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