home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

[pqpro]

A recep tester was used on a polarized recepticle, and was one of many hits needed corrective action listed on the con. report.
Is there any articles that cover this issue?

Paul

 

[ron]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

No surprise that this older home is not grounded. It was not required at that time and is not required to be upgraded to a grounded system unless there are renovations.
There are NEC articles that cover the conversion to a three prong receptacle if that it what you are interested in.

 

[tom baker]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

Easiest, best and safest solution is to install GFCI recptacles. Or a combo AFCI/GFCI circuit breaker. Beware of the plug in testers, they are not always 100% accurate. There are better ones, but cost much more.

 

[karl riley]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

Tom, I will sneak in a question about testers here. Mt SureTest Circuit Analyzer (cost about $500 I think) will sometimes cause a GFI to trip just be plugging it in. Any explanation?

Karl

 

[bennie]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

Has there been many electrocutions in this home?

 

[iwire]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

I just clicked on the repeat of this thread and got this response.

FYI
You have requested a topic that does not exist!

? Please use your browser's back button to return.

But it has to exist, I just clicked on it!

[ August 27, 2003, 07:29 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]

 

[luke warmwater]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

Bob, I've never received that message by clicking on any thread on this forum. Todd

 

[tom baker]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

Karl, what I understand is the only way to test a GFCI is with the its test button. The button leaks a bit of current hot to neutral. Some of the other testers leak a bit of current hot to ground. Yours must cause a leakage to ground. its it all GFCI's or just some? perhaps it happens with ones that have around 5 mA leakage, your tester pushes it to 6 mA... and it trips.

 

[roger]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

Here's the weird part, http://www.mikeholt.com/cgi-bin/codeforum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=recent_user_posts;u=00003926

as you see, Paul hasn't been here since June.

Wooooooooo!!!!!!

Roger

 

[iwire]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

as you see, Paul hasn't been here since June.

Wooooooooo!!!!!!

Roger

Where does the time go?

Bob

[ August 27, 2003, 08:06 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]

 

[charlie]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

Originally posted by iwire:
But it has to exist, I just clicked on it!

 

[roger]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

Tom, we would have to becarefull installing AFCI/GFCI combo breakers. The circuits serving smoke detectors could not use the GFCI version per NFPA 72.

Roger

 

[karl riley]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

Tom, the SureTest has a GFI testing feature. It will tell you the exact milliamps that the GFI tripped on. But on some GFIs, I can't even get to that feature because it trips before any buttons are pressed. Probably only someone who uses one of these testers would be familiar with this.

Karl

 

[tom baker]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

Roger good point
Karl I don't have an answer for your tripping.

 

[bill addiss]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

Karl,

I have a SureTest too. I don't think it's the same model but I had the same problem with tripping GFCIs.

I had gotten it as a perk and didn't really get much chance to give it much use, but it also seemed to be in "Load" Mode without pressing any buttons. (Sparking when plugged in). I contacted the person I got it from and he gave me the number of someone at Ideal that said they knew what was going on. I never got to talk to them though and haven't tried using it since, but maybe there is a simple answer.

Bill

 

[pqpro]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

Originally posted by bennie:
Has there been many electrocutions in this home?

To the best of my knowledge Bennie no one has yet to be electrocuted in this 1949 house.

 

[bennie]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

Glad to hear that, I once wired houses with ungrounded romex. :roll:

 

[ron]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

2 prong recept replacements are covered by 406.3(D) and 250.130(C)

 

[pqpro]

Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.

Originally posted by ron:
2 prong recept replacements are covered by 406.3(D) and 250.130(C)

Thank you Ron most appreciated, Paul