home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.
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Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.
No surprise that this older home is not grounded. It was not required at that time and is not required to be upgraded to a grounded system unless there are renovations.
There are NEC articles that cover the conversion to a three prong receptacle if that it what you are interested in.
No surprise that this older home is not grounded. It was not required at that time and is not required to be upgraded to a grounded system unless there are renovations.
There are NEC articles that cover the conversion to a three prong receptacle if that it what you are interested in.
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- Bremerton, Washington
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- Master Electrician
Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.
Easiest, best and safest solution is to install GFCI recptacles. Or a combo AFCI/GFCI circuit breaker. Beware of the plug in testers, they are not always 100% accurate. There are better ones, but cost much more.
Easiest, best and safest solution is to install GFCI recptacles. Or a combo AFCI/GFCI circuit breaker. Beware of the plug in testers, they are not always 100% accurate. There are better ones, but cost much more.
karl riley
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Tom, I will sneak in a question about testers here. Mt SureTest Circuit Analyzer (cost about $500 I think) will sometimes cause a GFI to trip just be plugging it in. Any explanation?
Karl
Tom, I will sneak in a question about testers here. Mt SureTest Circuit Analyzer (cost about $500 I think) will sometimes cause a GFI to trip just be plugging it in. Any explanation?
Karl
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Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.
I just clicked on the repeat of this thread and got this response.
[ August 27, 2003, 07:29 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]
I just clicked on the repeat of this thread and got this response.
But it has to exist, I just clicked on it!
[ August 27, 2003, 07:29 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]
luke warmwater
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Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.
Bob, I've never received that message by clicking on any thread on this forum. Todd
Bob, I've never received that message by clicking on any thread on this forum. Todd
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Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.
Karl, what I understand is the only way to test a GFCI is with the its test button. The button leaks a bit of current hot to neutral. Some of the other testers leak a bit of current hot to ground. Yours must cause a leakage to ground. its it all GFCI's or just some? perhaps it happens with ones that have around 5 mA leakage, your tester pushes it to 6 mA... and it trips.
Karl, what I understand is the only way to test a GFCI is with the its test button. The button leaks a bit of current hot to neutral. Some of the other testers leak a bit of current hot to ground. Yours must cause a leakage to ground. its it all GFCI's or just some? perhaps it happens with ones that have around 5 mA leakage, your tester pushes it to 6 mA... and it trips.
Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.
Here's the weird part, http://www.mikeholt.com/cgi-bin/codeforum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=recent_user_posts;u=00003926
as you see, Paul hasn't been here since June.
Wooooooooo!!!!!!
Roger
Here's the weird part, http://www.mikeholt.com/cgi-bin/codeforum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=recent_user_posts;u=00003926
as you see, Paul hasn't been here since June.
Wooooooooo!!!!!!
Roger
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Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.
Bob
[ August 27, 2003, 08:06 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]
Where does the time go?as you see, Paul hasn't been here since June.
Wooooooooo!!!!!!
Roger
Bob
[ August 27, 2003, 08:06 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]
charlie
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Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.
Originally posted by iwire:
But it has to exist, I just clicked on it!
karl riley
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Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.
Tom, the SureTest has a GFI testing feature. It will tell you the exact milliamps that the GFI tripped on. But on some GFIs, I can't even get to that feature because it trips before any buttons are pressed. Probably only someone who uses one of these testers would be familiar with this.
Karl
Tom, the SureTest has a GFI testing feature. It will tell you the exact milliamps that the GFI tripped on. But on some GFIs, I can't even get to that feature because it trips before any buttons are pressed. Probably only someone who uses one of these testers would be familiar with this.
Karl
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Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.
Roger good point
Karl I don't have an answer for your tripping.
Roger good point
Karl I don't have an answer for your tripping.
bill addiss
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Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.
Karl,
I have a SureTest too. I don't think it's the same model but I had the same problem with tripping GFCIs.
I had gotten it as a perk and didn't really get much chance to give it much use, but it also seemed to be in "Load" Mode without pressing any buttons. (Sparking when plugged in). I contacted the person I got it from and he gave me the number of someone at Ideal that said they knew what was going on. I never got to talk to them though and haven't tried using it since, but maybe there is a simple answer.
Bill
Karl,
I have a SureTest too. I don't think it's the same model but I had the same problem with tripping GFCIs.
I had gotten it as a perk and didn't really get much chance to give it much use, but it also seemed to be in "Load" Mode without pressing any buttons. (Sparking when plugged in). I contacted the person I got it from and he gave me the number of someone at Ideal that said they knew what was going on. I never got to talk to them though and haven't tried using it since, but maybe there is a simple answer.
Bill
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Re: home inspection report=1949 Home NOT Grounded.
2 prong recept replacements are covered by 406.3(D) and 250.130(C)
2 prong recept replacements are covered by 406.3(D) and 250.130(C)
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