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Home owner has a receptical outlet directly behind the dishwasher. The receptical will have the dishwasher and an instant hot water dispenser plugged into it. When the dishwasher is installed there is zero tolerance for the corded plugs. I have to change the corded plugs to have a 90 degree head on them. Can anyone direct me as to where to find a duplex receptical that has a horizontal face on a vertical yoke?
 
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torint said:
Home owner has a receptical outlet directly behind the dishwasher. The receptical will have the dishwasher and an instant hot water dispenser plugged into it. When the dishwasher is installed there is zero tolerance for the corded plugs. I have to change the corded plugs to have a 90 degree head on them. Can anyone direct me as to where to find a duplex receptical that has a horizontal face on a vertical yoke?
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What is the load of the two together. Seems like you might have a problem if they come on together. The thing that gets me is why you plug the instant hot behind a dishwasher? That's really not accessible. Are you going to have to pull out the dishwasher to unplug the instant hot? Uh Oh--- just a few of my thoughts.
 
I wasn't about to start going down that road...:smile: I personally would install a new receptacle under the sink, if the loads are permissible come right off the DW receptacle....
 
While they don't come in duplexes, a clock receptacle is probably cheaper and definitely less labor-intensive than replacing a perfectly good plug, and won't affect warranty or UL the way cutting a factory cord might.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
What is the load of the two together. Seems like you might have a problem if they come on together. The thing that gets me is why you plug the instant hot behind a dishwasher? That's really not accessible. Are you going to have to pull out the dishwasher to unplug the instant hot? Uh Oh--- just a few of my thoughts.
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I too am questioning its location.My guess is the DW needed hot water and the instant heat was added.Very unlikely that the instant hot takes less than half of that 20.
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
I too am questioning its location.My guess is the DW needed hot water and the instant heat was added.Very unlikely that the instant hot takes less than half of that 20.
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You are assuming it has a 20 amp circuit. Instant hots ae used in the sinks to make extra hot water for instant coffee or tea not for the dishwashers. Many dishwasher have their own heaters in them to heat the water and draw over 12 amps.
Also you are assuming its a 20 amp circuit
 
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Install 20A circuit to recpt under counter, install 20A 3-way sw at counter w/sw in down position the instant hot is energized (constant) when sw is put to on position (up) disconnects instant hot turns on DW. It was how we did it in Florida back in the 70's. One circuit two appliances.:D
 
lowryder88h said:
Install 20A circuit to recpt under counter, install 20A 3-way sw at counter w/sw in down position the instant hot is energized (constant) when sw is put to on position (up) disconnects instant hot turns on DW. It was how we did it in Florida back in the 70's. One circuit two appliances.:D
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That would work-- I have done that in a similar situation years ago. Now you are showing your age lowry
 
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Yep, Dennis, and bx in most applications res. or commercial, nad NM w/out grd. & NM w/ #18 grd. Also had a NM stripper most of these young fellows probably have never used one or seen one. How about yourself ?????
 
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Yep, Dennis, and bx in most applications res. or commercial, nad NM w/out grd. & NM w/ #18 grd. Also had a NM stripper most of these young fellows probably have never used one or seen one. How about yourself ?????
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Oh I guess I'll show my age-- I have used three different types of romex strippers but my favorite is the one I use now made by ideal. Only mine are all yellow
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Also another brand but I don't remember--

Now I am not old enough to have installed romex without ground or with the 18 gauge ground but I have seen it alot. Worked alot with ac cable before mc came around also--the old hacksaw was the method to strip that. Rip the armour off stick in the redhead and twirl the thin metal ground around the cable-- helped to hold the redhead in.
 
LarryFine said:
While they don't come in duplexes, a clock receptacle is probably cheaper and definitely less labor-intensive than replacing a perfectly good plug, and won't affect warranty or UL the way cutting a factory cord might.
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Changing the plug on the end of a factory cord does not change the UL Listing. The UL label says that the cord was applied correctly when it left the factory.

It is up to the AHJ to decide if a "changed" plug is acceptable.
 
lowryder88h said:
Install 20A circuit to recpt under counter, install 20A 3-way sw at counter w/sw in down position the instant hot is energized (constant) when sw is put to on position (up) disconnects instant hot turns on DW. It was how we did it in Florida back in the 70's. One circuit two appliances.:D
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If the insta hot is to help the DW what good will it do if turned off ?
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
If the insta hot is to help the DW what good will it do if turned off ?
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The instant hot has nothing to do with the dishwasher. As said before it is usually for instant hot water for your tea or coffee--perhaps cocoa if you prefer. There is a small spout at the sink where you dispense the water from.
 
Now here is what they really look like installed. Note the rust stains under the unit they are from the first unit going bad and needing to be unplugged. Access is important. This unit is 750 watts and the disposal, dishwasher, and garbage disposal are all on the same 20 amp circuit. It has never tripped, but it is a small disposal and all three are never used at once due to real world life style. I would not condone this type of install it is to easy to add the correct number of circuits at rough in, the parts cost are cheap to do the job right. The insta hots run for afew minutes and they are up to temp.


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My first question is why the need for a 90 degree plug.All the dw`s I have seen have a centered in the space allowed not more than 8 ins. aff area that allows after removing a kick plate an accessible receptacle.I have one inspector that says that if you have to remove a panel then it needs to be breaker locked out,since to access the plug/disc. you have to remove a panel.What we run into huh :)
 
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