Hot Tub Install

[Jay Bohne]

i am a new tradesman and have a hot tub to install...it looks like i need a GFI breaker at 60 amps. if i have this do i need a disconnect within 5 ft and do i really need a general use receptacle(GFCI)? (240 volt, single phase)

 

[kkwong]

1. Welcome to the Forum

2. No local ammendments-Yes to the disconnect within 5' and 120VAC recep.

 

[bradleyelectric]

are you doing this by yourself as a new tradesman?

 

[Dennis Alwon]

2. No local ammendments-Yes to the disconnect within 5' and 120VAC recep.

Not sure I agree with that.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

art. 680. 41 says not less than 5" and it does not apply to single family dwellings.

 

[infinity]

For a single family dwelling the disconnect needs to be within sight (50') or part of the package unit itself.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

For a single family dwelling the disconnect needs to be within sight (50') or part of the package unit itself.

For the other applications it can be an emergency off button, not a typical disco which I think the op is talking about.

 

[Len]

disconnect

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2005 code requires disconnect 5' from hot tub.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

2005 code requires disconnect 5' from hot tub.

2008 is unchanged from 2005.

680.41 Emergency Switch for Spas and Hot Tubs.
A clearly labeled emergency shutoff or control switch for the purpose of stopping the motor(s) that provide power to the recirculation system and jet system shall be installed at a point readily accessible to the users and not less than 1.5 m (5 ft) away, adjacent to, and within sight of the spa or hot tub. This requirement shall not apply to single-family dwellings.

 

[kkwong]

Me thinks we need some more info...

I do agree that the 5' rule is for commercial, but is 50' really line of site? I can't tell if my disco is thrown from 40' let alone 50'.

 

[JohnJ0906]

but is 50' really line of site? I can't tell if my disco is thrown from 40' let alone 50'.

But you CAN see if someone is trying to turn it back on while you are working on the equipment.

 

[kkwong]

But you CAN see if someone is trying to turn it back on while you are working on the equipment.

True...though where I used to work we had these evil little gremlins that would do things like that

 

[Sierrasparky]

At places like that you get a padlock.. not worth the gremlins

 

[Minuteman]

Me thinks we need some more info...

I do agree that the 5' rule is for commercial, but is 50' really line of site? I can't tell if my disco is thrown from 40' let alone 50'.

Yeah it's off, I think. Go ahead. It should be safe...




I hope.

 

[brantmacga]

Me thinks we need some more info...

I do agree that the 5' rule is for commercial, but is 50' really line of site? I can't tell if my disco is thrown from 40' let alone 50'.

I don't think it was ever meant that you visually see the disconnect in the 'off' position.

 

[Jay Bohne]

are you doing this by yourself as a new tradesman?

I actually did this with a friend who is a journeyman as well...the 120vac receptacle was not installed, as there was one about 15' away GFCI protected. I put the GFCI disconnect at 6' away, and it worked without a problem...what is the deal with the general use receptacle? I interpreted the code to be neccesary if the equipment utilized it, then it was required...local code issue?

 

[Jay Bohne]

1. Welcome to the Forum

2. No local ammendments-Yes to the disconnect within 5' and 120VAC recep.

1. thank-you
2. I was with a highly experienced tradesman and we are still confused on the 120vac receptacle...everything we read in the code said that it was indoor application and only required if the equipment(pump etc.)....help please!