How long would you estimate

[sfav8r]

Just curious what others think the time on this job would be. There is an existing panel that is surface mounted. It is easy to install an additional conduit from the panel up to the large attic. All rooms are accessible via the attic. This is an older home all lath and plaster with 9' ceilings. It will be vacant and mostly empty when we do the work. The average run from the panel would be about 40'

Thanks for your input.

Family Room
Remove old gas pipe mounted light fixture. Run power to existing switch location and run new switch and lighting outlet

Living Room
Install new lighting outlet and switch leg (currently no light in this room)

Bedroom 1
Rewire existing lighting outlet and switch leg (currently K&T)
Move existing outlet 3' lower on wall and ground outlet (redo in Romex)
Rewire 2 existing outlets with Romex

Bedroom 2
Move existing outlet 3' lower on wall and ground outlet (redo in Romex)
Add new outlet on adjacent wall

Hall bath
Remove wall sconce and associated wiring. Install new switch leg and lighting outlet in ceiling

Hall bath 2
Add 2 GFCI outlets (currently no outlets in this bathroom)
Install new light fixture

Bedroom 3
Install 4 grounded outlets (currently no outlets in this room)

Bedroom 4
Add 2 grounded outlet and remove existing wiremold

 

[TOOL_5150]

More importantly, what do YOU think this job will take, then others can insert their estimates.

~Matt

 

[Buck Parrish]

I'll go; 2 guys 20 hours.
I would make it clear that holes may need to be cut to fish wires. Some of theses old houses have diagnal support beams in the corners.
Get a large salt water fishing weight. It makes it easy to lower down in the walls.
The beams under the walls may be the size of railroad ties. And wider then the wall. So you may need to drill from below.

 

[jwjrw]

Almost all of them are perlined or x braced and can be in every bay on a wall.
I would quote them a fair per hour rate and see if you could sell it straight time. I do 65 for one guy 80 for two. Once they understand it could be cheaper than what I may guess (Id give them a poss worse case guess)they are ok with it.

 

[jwjrw]

I'll go; 2 guys 20 hours.
I would make it clear that holes may need to be cut to fish wires. Some of theses old houses have diagnal support beams in the corners.
Get a large salt water fishing weight. It makes it easy to lower down in the walls.
The beams under the walls may be the size of railroad ties. And wider then the wall. So you may need to drill from below.

I did two built in 1890's and the wood is soooo hard I had to buy new nailbiter augers. And real wood used heck some still had bark on them.

 

[sfav8r]

Almost all of them are perlined or x braced and can be in every bay on a wall.
I would quote them a fair per hour rate and see if you could sell it straight time. I do 65 for one guy 80 for two. Once they understand it could be cheaper than what I may guess (Id give them a poss worse case guess)they are ok with it.

Thanks, I'm curious why it's only 80 for 2 guys. That seems like a pretty steep discount for the 2nd guy. We're in San Francisco so maybe it's a regional thing. We charge the same rate for the 2nd guy unless it's an apprentice oe a helper. 85, 65, and 40 respectively.

 

[sfav8r]

More importantly, what do YOU think this job will take, then others can insert their estimates.

~Matt

We used to do these on a per opening basis. The numbers haven't been working out too good. I'm trying to see if we're just slow on this kind of work. Under the old system I would have charged 3,300. If you divide that by 40 hours like jwjrw estimated, it comes out to 82.50/hr which is pretty darn close.

 

[TOOL_5150]

We used to do these on a per opening basis. The numbers haven't been working out too good. I'm trying to see if we're just slow on this kind of work. Under the old system I would have charged 3,300. If you divide that by 40 hours like jwjrw estimated, it comes out to 82.50/hr which is pretty darn close.

I see you are a fellow bay area guy. Just a quick glance, Id say your price is on the lower side. I would push upwards of 90/hr, which is still under what my company charges [the company I work for]

~Matt

 

[jwjrw]

Thanks, I'm curious why it's only 80 for 2 guys. That seems like a pretty steep discount for the 2nd guy. We're in San Francisco so maybe it's a regional thing. We charge the same rate for the 2nd guy unless it's an apprentice oe a helper. 85, 65, and 40 respectively.

Well its one journeyman and one helper say 40.00. I only charge 80 on" by the hour work".Competition is tough here. I still get underbid on alot of stuff.
But I"d rather make a known $40 an hour than guess wrong one time and lose money.

 

[jwjrw]

We used to do these on a per opening basis. The numbers haven't been working out too good. I'm trying to see if we're just slow on this kind of work. Under the old system I would have charged 3,300. If you divide that by 40 hours like jwjrw estimated, it comes out to 82.50/hr which is pretty darn close.

There are no 2 hour jobs. Thats my fathers favorite thing to say about electrical work. I used to give a price per can for can lights on remodel now I give an estimate......

 

[sfav8r]

There are no 2 hour jobs.

Amen. It's funny how you can only get 2 2-hour jobs done in a day.

 

[rt66electric]

$100 an ITEM

$100 an ITEM

I would double check my estimate, by this ballpark method $100 a outlet/item .. 30 item= $3000 I have several remodelers who rough bid my services at $300 for a half day and/or $100 an item. I'v e done a similar job for $6000, but it included more items