How much has it gone up

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electrofelon

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For those of you who do resi regularly and are on top of your numbers:

1. How much has your material bill for a typical house gone up. Doubled? I usually tell people materials have about doubled for electrical. Could be more for resi as Romex now is about tripled?

2. How much has the whole job gone up since pre-pandemic? Say you did a house for $20,000 before, what would it be now?

We could talk about commercial too, just seems with that much bigger variation in what type of materials there are and the labor/materials split, etc.
 
Depending on materials used, some have tripled, such as PVC conduit. I would say on average, it's 150% more on materials. And that is if you don't have to pay black market prices for meter bases and some meter/mains.
 
electrofelon said:
Yeah PVC has what, quadrupled? Certainly a PVC intensive job is going to have a big jump 🦘 .
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I work for several different POCO. Some of them require the customer to provide the PVC for an underground service. That could be 4x increase just in the PVC. That's not counting increase in other things such as strut, meter bases, etc. That's just the outside! Other POCO we just have to have a stick down from MB and a sweep. So a lot less cost (to us electricians), but the customer is on the hook for the wire from POCO. The customer is either out the wire or conduit, but still have to pay for both. Only difference is who they pay, us or POCO.
 
Little Bill said:
I work for several different POCO. Some of them require the customer to provide the PVC for an underground service. That could be 4x increase just in the PVC. That's not counting increase in other things such as strut, meter bases, etc. That's just the outside! Other POCO we just have to have a stick down from MB and a sweep. So a lot less cost (to us electricians), but the customer is on the hook for the wire from POCO. The customer is either out the wire or conduit, but still have to pay for both. Only difference is who they pay, us or POCO.
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Wow.

We supply the pvc conduit, wire, and labor to install.
All that is free if total electric.

And if the guys are digging near your well to the house, throw the water line and phone line in there if you want to..
 
Hv&Lv said:
Wow.

We supply the pvc conduit, wire, and labor to install.
All that is free if total electric.

And if the guys are digging near your well to the house, throw the water line and phone line in there if you want to..
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We have one POCO (city owned) that requires us to provide and install the conduit from the house/building to the pole. They used to let us leave one stick to go up the pole. Now they require us to leave enough to go all the way up the pole, plus we have to install the 1st stick up the pole. On top of that, we have to leave a pull string for them in the conduit. Waiting for them to just tell us to do it all, including connecting to the tranny, then they'll come and put a meter in!:rolleyes:
 
I have a 400 amp meter base I bought 16 months ago fot about $450 because I was supposed to upgrade a service. I even asked opinions here.

Turned out the GC flaked out after about 17 months of dragging his feet on a basement finish at that house.

My ballpark price a year ago was $4,000

The homeowner got my number somehow, and called me two weeks ago to see if I'd still do the upgrade. I will.

But my price isn't $4,000 anymore

I'll probably tell him $2,500 for the meter can.
PVC is still ridiculuous
Wire, even aluminum, is more than double

He's probably looking at $7,500-8,500 now

Breakers are double now, too. Just saw $18.00 for a 2-pole BR 30 😵
 
James L said:
I have a 400 amp meter base I bought 16 months ago fot about $450 because I was supposed to upgrade a service. I even asked opinions here.

Turned out the GC flaked out after about 17 months of dragging his feet on a basement finish at that house.

My ballpark price a year ago was $4,000

The homeowner got my number somehow, and called me two weeks ago to see if I'd still do the upgrade. I will.

But my price isn't $4,000 anymore

I'll probably tell him $2,500 for the meter can.
PVC is still ridiculuous
Wire, even aluminum, is more than double

He's probably looking at $7,500-8,500 now

Breakers are double now, too. Just saw $18.00 for a 2-pole BR 30 😵
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:eek:
 
James L said:
I have a 400 amp meter base I bought 16 months ago fot about $450 because I was supposed to upgrade a service. I even asked opinions here.

Turned out the GC flaked out after about 17 months of dragging his feet on a basement finish at that house.

My ballpark price a year ago was $4,000

The homeowner got my number somehow, and called me two weeks ago to see if I'd still do the upgrade. I will.

But my price isn't $4,000 anymore

I'll probably tell him $2,500 for the meter can.
PVC is still ridiculuous
Wire, even aluminum, is more than double

He's probably looking at $7,500-8,500 now

Breakers are double now, too. Just saw $18.00 for a 2-pole BR 30 😵
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The sad part is he will probably think you are ripping him off…
 
Boy, its getting real expensive to wire a house. My OP was more about "COVID prices", but I just got breakers for my first nec 2020 house, a duplex. With all the new GFCI requirements and square D's surge protector requirement, I mean ouch.....
 
Little Bill said:
We have one POCO (city owned) that requires us to provide and install the conduit from the house/building to the pole. They used to let us leave one stick to go up the pole. Now they require us to leave enough to go all the way up the pole, plus we have to install the 1st stick up the pole. On top of that, we have to leave a pull string for them in the conduit. Waiting for them to just tell us to do it all, including connecting to the tranny, then they'll come and put a meter in!:rolleyes:
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For commercial installations here, the service point is the transformer secondary terminals. For an underground service, the EC does the complete service conductor installation, including the terminations at the transformer. For overhead, the EC does everything except terminate the service conductors on the transformer terminals.
Haven't gone that far for residential...yet.
 
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