how would you get to the garage?

[tonyou812]

I have to refeed a detached garage, the old knob and tube has fallen apart. piping to the garage which is about 35 feet away is not an option, because the area is surronded by concret and owners want cheep fix. what sort of wire could you use for this? do they make some kind of #12 triplex with support wire ?

 

[mdshunk]

Just run #6 triplex and tap on #12 at each end. That's the only viable way. The other option, supporting #12 UF on a messenger, is actually more expensive.

 

[DAWGS]

#6 triplex, flowmole, sawcut and jackhammer, I would go with triplex.

 

[tonyou812]

thats kinda what i figured. I had a roll of it but gave it away months ago for something else. this job is for a family member and is giving me aligator arms.
I have 12/3 uf but it looks real crap on a wire. I guess its 8 triplex

 

[mdshunk]

#6 triplex, flowmole, sawcut and jackhammer, I would go with triplex.

You own a flowmole? I rented a Hammerhead Mole 4 or 5 years ago, and was reasonably impressed with it.

 

[mdshunk]

thats kinda what i figured. I had a roll of it but gave it away months ago for something else. this job is for a family member and is giving me aligator arms.
I have 12/3 uf but it looks real crap on a wire. I guess its 8 triplex

You need at least #6 triplex, I feel sure, to meet code. For 35 feet, I think you're talking about maybe 25 bucks worth of triplex, plus some knobs and hooks. If you had 3-strand before, there's no reason why you can't just reuse your 3-point rack at each end to hang the triplex hooks off just one knob.

 

[tonyou812]

thats kinda what i figured. I had a roll of it but gave it away months ago for something else. this job is for a family member and is giving me aligator arms.
I have 12/3 uf but it looks real crap on a wire. I guess its 8 triplex

 

[ItsHot]

#6

#6

Yep. # 6 is minimum for ovhd.

 

[ItsHot]

or #8

or #8

Maybe # 8, DooH !

 

[mdshunk]

Maybe # 8, DooH !

I even have the electronic version at my fingertips, and I was too lazy to look it up. Article 396 doesn't seem to have a minimum size, but I find it's hard to find aerial triplex smaller than #6 anyhow. Open Wiring on Insulators has a minimum of #8, but triplex (or quadplex or whatever he's using) is under the Messenger Supported Wiring.

 

[frenchelectrican]

for triplex the #6 is the smallest one they have in that format but for duplex [ i wont even get into there due the code constactions ] that diffrent story most POCO used that for street luminaires they are #8 that is the min size.

Merci, Marc