I'd be your worst customer

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electricmanscott

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Boston, MA
I needed tires for one of my vehicles this week. I called just about everyone I could think of and when all was said and done, I bought the cheapest I could find.

I know we deal with people like me everyday and it drives us crazy.
I think this is the mindset of the average consumer and there is nothing you can do about it. In my view, adapt or die.
 

76nemo

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Ogdensburg, NY
One of the reasons I lose out on old work. If it's a PITA, I charge for the PITA, you get my point. The customer doesn't understand just all of which old work can entail.
 

Rewire

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We are going to price to the market if I start loosing work because I bid to high I will lower the price.I look at this year like a foot race,those who are to fat will be the first to fall by the way the next will be those who are just not real healthy then those who are just not in it to win it the ones that will make it to the finish will be the lean fit ones.I have learned not to hang on to old ideas.
 

cowboyjwc

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Simi Valley, CA
I needed tires for one of my vehicles this week. I called just about everyone I could think of and when all was said and done, I bought the cheapest I could find.

I know we deal with people like me everyday and it drives us crazy.
I think this is the mindset of the average consumer and there is nothing you can do about it. In my view, adapt or die.

Wow, finally someone stepped up and admitted it.:D

On the flip side, one day I had to get a tire replaced, could not wait, would not hold air so went to the closet shop and they treated me very well told me he could replace all four for what two matching ones were going to cost so I said lets do it. I was in an out in an hour. Now oil changes, tires, refferels, I wouldn't go anywhere else.

I have paid whatever it took to get a plumber out on a saturday, because it is what it is, but I need my pipes snaked and I start shopping price. Had one come in my house and tell me that if he couldn't snake it from the outside then he would have to charge more to bring his equipment inside, so I handed him by business card and took him outside and pointed to the vent pipe on the second story roof and said there you go "outside".
 

highendtron

Senior Member
I think you just wrote what happens to be the essense of a "free market". We all pick and choose when, where , and why we elect to be "cheap", "frugal", or "reasonable".
 

Dnkldorf

Senior Member
The days of hitting homeruns have settled down.

Either you start playing for base hits, or you go home.
 

mkgrady

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Location
Massachusetts
I needed tires for one of my vehicles this week. I called just about everyone I could think of and when all was said and done, I bought the cheapest I could find.

A tire is a commodity. If it has a brand name you have heard of it is probably a good or at least safe tire. On a scale of 0-10 I would think most tires would fall in the 7-10 range for quality and safety.

Contrast that with the variables of a trade guy, any trade, and I would think you would see lots of ratings near zero. I hope people shopping for electrical services are looking for tens.
 

LarryFine

Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
Location
Henrico County, VA
Occupation
Electrical Contractor
I needed tires for one of my vehicles this week. I called just about everyone I could think of and when all was said and done, I bought the cheapest I could find.
Gee, I do the same thing when I need materials for a major job. One I land a job based on easy pricing, I do hard shopping.

Just like GC's, once you've done what you can to maximize the income, you have to do what you can to minimize the outgo.

The remainder is profit.
 

LarryFine

Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
Location
Henrico County, VA
Occupation
Electrical Contractor
A tire is a commodity. If it has a brand name you have heard of it is probably a good or at least safe tire. On a scale of 0-10 I would think most tires would fall in the 7-10 range for quality and safety.
I usually look at the wear and wet-traction ratings.
 

tonyou812

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Location
North New Jersey
I needed tires for one of my vehicles this week. I called just about everyone I could think of and when all was said and done, I bought the cheapest I could find.

I know we deal with people like me everyday and it drives us crazy.
I think this is the mindset of the average consumer and there is nothing you can do about it. In my view, adapt or die.

I'm just gonna throw this out there so dont get offended. Maybe if you charged a little more for your services you wouldn't have to be the raggedy van guy? And maybe you should market your services to a better clientele and not the "cheap charlies".
I personally believe in setting myself up to succeed. And that doesn't include having to buy tires twice because I bought crappy ones to get me by for a while.

What the heck is wrong with some of you guys. Not all of you but there is a select few in here that are constantly complaining that the sky is falling and you'll do what ever to get a job. Even if you have to low ball. I started out on my own last year and sure at first it was a little slow but I really push myself to get my name out there and its starting to pay off.

I use every possible tool, person and situation to get myself known. I seriously think that there are many of you that rode the "bubble" to its end and now your sitting in your shops staring at the phone. And I really think that many of you dont know what to do. Don't you guys have ANY people skills? How is it that me, ...a newbie has managed to make it work?
I even went as far as working with a caterer friend part time about 8 months ago because I knew she catered to very wealthy people and real estate brokers and such. And you can bet your bottom dollar that I introduced myself to as many people as I could. And let me tell you it has really paid off.

I also believe that I provide outstanding customer service. I try to exceed peoples expectations. If I have to cancel a date for what ever reason and I feel that the people are a little annoyed when I show up I usually bring them something small like pasties or coffee or what ever to make them smile. This type of customer service is almost unheard of in our industry. And I believe I get more referrals then most.

About a month ago I drove by a small building and noticed that the 26 high hats that went around the perimeter of the building were on in the middle of the day. I also noticed that they had incandescent bulbs in them. SO I went home and wrote that company a letter using my letter head and introduced myself to them, told them who I was, what my company does, and that I couldn't help but notice that there lights are on almost all day and included in the letter a calculation of how much this was costing them in wasted energy. I explained to them how they can reduce their energy usage and by installing a photo cell or timer with built in DST. And to my surprise I got a call from them. I really thought it was a shot in the dark but it worked. Yea sure It didnt make me a lot of money changing light bulbs and a photo cell but it got my foot in the door, and i gained their respect for saving them money in the long run.

At my local Home Depot I have worked up a pretty good report with the store manager and I have been putting it in her head that I can save her some money by doing her site light maintenance. I told her she is probably paying some big company way to much for what she has on site. I told her all the pole lights can be reached with a 16 foot ladder and she doesn't need to pay a big outfit with boom trucks top dollar to change bulbs and ballast.

And as I am typing this I just got a call from a contact I made with the caterer for a small kit reno. Anyhoo-


That my friends is what I talking about. In a Bull economy the work finds you in a Bear economy you have to go and get it even if you have to drag the customer out by the neck. (in a very nice way of course)

You need to think positively and stop programing your brain to think so negative. And I'm not just talking about this post but some of your other ones.

Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea for you to attend a Tony Robbins seminar. A few years back Ken Hyman (a past employer of mine) paid for all of his crew to attend a weekend seminar at the meadowlands and it totally changed my outlook on life.


Don't wait to advertise when your phone has stopped ringing. Anticipate and react.

Yea sure man ADAPT or DIE but from the sound of it, and the negative wordage you peppered in your post (cheap, die, average mindset) it almost seems like you chose the latter.
 

tonyou812

Senior Member
Location
North New Jersey
For what its worth this isnt an attack on you. Im just trying to help you think more positively and maybe give you some insight on how to strum up more/better buisness. So please dont take it the wrong way as many do in here.
 

growler

Senior Member
Location
Atlanta,GA
I needed tires for one of my vehicles this week. I called just about everyone I could think of and when all was said and done,I bought the cheapest I could find.

I know we deal with people like me everyday and it drives us crazy.

So you went to the junk yard and got a used set of tires and then took them home and tried to mount and balance them yourself. :D
 

brian john

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Location
Leesburg, VA
I have always heard woman were gathers they shop like they gathered food 1000's of years ago deciding what berries are safe to eat, taking time to look around. Men are hunters make a kill and get out of there, I go in the store grab what I need and leave. I waste no time shopping the saber tooth could be waiting to eat me.
 

cadpoint

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Location
Durham, NC
So just why would you buy cheap tires ?

For the life of me, I don't understand that logic!!!

Well, I've never had Car Disease, no extra audio, wheels or anything else!

Wait, I did order a side mirror for a new car, once...

Now, I've shopped for prices on tires and usually go with the middle price range!
 

tonyou812

Senior Member
Location
North New Jersey
I have always heard woman were gathers they shop like they gathered food 1000's of years ago deciding what berries are safe to eat, taking time to look around. Men are hunters make a kill and get out of there, I go in the store grab what I need and leave. I waste no time shopping the saber tooth could be waiting to eat me.

You can say that again. Now that my old lady is pregnet I have to do things like go to the baby store with her and let me tell you....its brutal. How many oneseys and baby furniture can you look at?..... ill tell you, every freakin one ever made.
 

stickboy1375

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Location
Litchfield, CT
You can say that again. Now that my old lady is pregnant I have to do things like go to the baby store with her and let me tell you....its brutal. How many oneseys and baby furniture can you look at?..... ill tell you, every freakin one ever made.

Thats why they made the internet, look at the stuff from home. :D
 

Mule

Senior Member
Location
Oklahoma
Bought tires for the van 2-3 weeks ago, bought the BF Goodrich's, why? because they are made in the USA,and the local tire shop (not Walmarts) thanked me for the business as they were slow.

We need to start learning to rely on one another instead of our own individual desire to climb to the top. Think Community and about your neighbor....

What goes around, comes around...........:)
 
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